Hefferan,

[Degsy]

Hoping I can get some help as I haven't really done any Irish research, I am looking for great,great grandparents, I will start with Martin Hefferan, stated as being of "Newport, Hibernia" according to his daughters Marriage Cert from Parish Registers in England. I gather he was born about 1800 and was deceased by 1861 as his Wife is described as a Widow in the 1861 census for Chorley, Lancashire, England. The name varies from one document yo another, have seen Heffron, Everon,  Heffaran,  Heffernan. His wife was Marym dont know her surname before marriage, haven't found them in 1851 in England Census. They had 3 daughters that I have found so far, Catherine, born about 1833, Julia born about 1838 and my great grandmother, Margaret born about 1840, all in Ireland, in Mayo I believe.
Mary their mother would have been born about 1804, this varies somewhat from Census to census but her death Cert gives her age in 1886 as 79 years.
Any help at all would be appreciated, oh probably not much help but Martin is stated as being "an out door labourer" on Mary's Death certificate. I should probably add they were RC.
Many thanks in anticipation of anything.

[heywood]

If it is definitely Newport, Mayo, the parish would be Kilmeena.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1146

As you can see the free records on that site do not cover the years you need.
You could try RootsIreland - there is a link on that page. RootsIreland is a pay site, you would need to check.

There is also a link to Irish Ancestors on the same site, it doesn’t look as though there are any records for you.
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?county=Mayo&parish=Kilmeena&churchid=1146

[Degsy]

Thanks for your reply, will look into the info you have given me, I wasnt even aware of the Parish, do thank you.

[wivenhoe]

Is this your family?

Census 1861  3 Mill Court Chorley Lancashire
HEFFRON Mary       head  57y  washerwoman     b. Ireland
HEFFRON Julia        dau    23y  cotton factory worker   b. Ireland
HEFFRON Margaret  dau   21y   factory worker   b. Ireland


FreeBDM    DecQ 1861    Chorley   Vol 8e  page 557   marriage
RILEY John     HEFFARAN Margaret

Census 1871  55 Water Street Chorley Lancashire
RILEY John          head     34y labourer bricklayer      b. Ireand
RILEY Maggie      wife       32y                                 b. Ireland
RILEY Ann           dau        7y                                  b. Chorley
RILEY Honor       dau         5y                                  b. Chorley
RILEY Thomas     son         3y                                  b. Chorley
RILEY Francis      son         1y                                  b. Chorley

Census 1881 15 Garden Street Chorley Lancashire
RILEY John        head        42y      ag. labourer            b. Ireland
RILEY Margaret  wife        41y       machine ***cotton  b. Ireland
RILEY Ann         dau         17y       winder  cotton mill  b. Chorley
RILEY Anara      dau         15y       winder cotton mill   b. Chorley
RILEY Thomas   son         13y       1/2 timer   "           b. Chorley
RILEY Frank      son          11y      1/2 timer   "           b. Chorley
HEFFRON Mary  m.i.l        77y      widow                    b. Ireland
RILEY Mary       dau            7y                                  b. Chorley

 
"...I have found so far, Catherine, born about 1833, Julia born about 1838"

I see Julia in the 1861 census. What else do you know about Julia 1861+

Where do you see Catherine?. What do you know about Catherine?

Can you list all the information from the marriage certificate, RILEY - HEFFARAN,  1861

Can you list all the information from the death certificate, Mary,  1883

 

[heywood]

Re Julia

1871 4197/39/25
15 Garden Street
Mary Everon
Julia Everon

Living with Thomas and Catherine Kelly and children
Marriage Chorley 1853
Thomas Kelly and Catherine Haveran

Marriage Chorley 1876
Thomas Cain and Julia Evern


1881 4220/79/26

Transcribed as ‘Vane’ on Ancestry

Thomas Vane 44 yrs
Julia Vane   40 yrs
Bridget Vane 21 yrs
Catherine Vane   9 yrs

1891 Julia lodging with the Kellys

1901 3935/118/1

Thomas Cain 67 yrs
Julia Cain   65 yrs b Westport Ireland 

[heywood]

I post this with caution as the children don’t match up at all

1851 2263/213/6

11 Bolton Street Chorley

Mary Haven 50 yrs b Ireland
With several children including Catherine 16 yrs but no Margaret or Julia.

[wivenhoe]

FreeBDM marriage  JunQ 1853  Chorley Vol 8e page 446
KELLY Thomas      HAVERAN Catherine

This marriage would be useful to see. Names of witnesses would be useful, maybe an indication of father being alive.

[Degsy]

Just a quick reply to say thank you so much for your responses, you gave both connected the right family, will respond fully later today, I believe there may be part of the 1851 Census "missing" in the transcriptions on Ancestry and FindMyPast, will include that extra info when I do post. This us very encouraging, once again Thank you both.

[Degsy]

OK, just by coincidence and conveniently the Marriage Certificate for John Riley and Margaret Heffaran has arrived in the Post this morning.
This states as follows:
19October 1861 at St. Mary's Chapel, Chorley,
John Riley, 23 years, Batchelor, Agricultural Labourer, of Bengal Street, Chorley, son of Thomas Riley, deceased, BLacksmith.
Margaret Heffaran, 22 years, spinster, Cotton Piecer, of Mill Court, Chorley, daughter of Martin Heffaran, deceased, Agricultural Labourer.
In presence of: Patrick Foy, and Julia Evans.
Both witnesses and Bride and Groom "made their mark".
I also already had a Transcription I had made from years ago of the Parish Register for St. Mary's Chorley, Marriages, this gives the following information.
19 October 1861
John Riley of Bengal Street, Chorley, son of Thomas Riley and
Margaret Hefferan of Chorley daughter of Martin Hefferan of Newport, Hibernia
Witnesses: Patrick Foy, Standish Street, Chorley,
                   Julia Hefferan, Mill Court, Chorley
So some slight variations in the two documents, I will check the PR again once the County Record Office reopens following Covid 19.
Also the Death Cert for Mary Everon gives the following details:
8 June 1886, 79 Water Street, Chorley. Mary Everon, Female, 79 years, widow of Martin Everon, An out of door labourer. Senility, Informed by Margaret Reilly, daughter, present at Death, 79 Water Street, Chorley.

Will work through the other info that you have both listed and comment on that in due course later today, hope this gets us off to a start.

Many thanks,
Degsy