Edward and Jane Russell - Marylebone

[lauren28]

Hi I've been researching Edward Russell born in Ireland in around 1841 but cannot find any records of his birth or marriage to Jane. Her name is normally put as Jane Russell from Gerrard's Cross but I can't find her maiden name or marriage either. They had children called Edith F, Amy M, Bertie E, Annie L and William H. If you find anything I'd love to know, thank you!!

[rosie99]

RUSSELL, BERTIE  EDWARD     mmn TILBURY 
1880  June Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 412

RUSSELL, WILLIAM  HENRY     mmn TILBURY 
1883  March Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 427


RUSSELL, EDITH  FLORENCE     mmn TILBURY 
1886  Sept Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 412

RUSSELL, ANNIE  LOUISA     mmn TILBURY 
1888  Sept Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 384

RUSSELL, AMY  MAUD     mmn TILBURY 
1890  Sept Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 401

RUSSELL, ERNEST  GEORGE     mmn TILBURY 
1894  Mar Quarter in ST GEORGE HANOVER SQUARE  Volume 01A  Page 424
 

[lauren28]

Thank you so much!

[Ladyhawk]

I've been researching Edward Russell born in Ireland in around 1841

cannot find any records of his birth or marriage to Jane.

Her name is normally put as Jane Russell from Gerrard's Cross but I can't find her maiden name or marriage either.

Looking at the censuses pob for Edward Russell only given as Ireland
his occupation Commissionaire

Jane Russell's pob Gerrard's Cross Buckingham born c 1853

Not seeing a Russell/Tilbury marriage entry on FreeBMD 

There is this entry

Jun 1876                  
Norford   Emma              Bethnal Green   1c   594
Palser   Alfred Llewellen      Bethnal Green   1c   594
Rayner   Jane                      Bethnal Green   1c   594
RUSSELL   Edward             Bethnal Green   1c   594

Alfred Palser married Emma Norford they can be found on 1881 census 
son Alfred has mmn Norford, so that indicates Edward Russell married Jane Rayner

Edit to add - found three Russell children mmn Rayner 1879 - 1888
Edward (1856) & Jane Russell  (1857) are on the 1891 census with children Edward, George & Emily

1881 census
31, North Row, St George Hanover Square, London & Middlesex
Edward   Russell   1835   Commissionare   Ireland
Jane   Russell   1853   Buckingham
Bertie E   Russell     1881   Middlesex

Could Jane Tilbury have been previously married 

A possibility for Jane on 1861 census

Chair Factory, Millers Row, Wycombe, Buckinghamshire
John   Tilbury   Head   1813   occ Chair Maker   Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
Sarah   Tilbury   Wife   1814   -   Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
Frances   Tilbury   .1840   occ Chair Maker   Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
John   Tilbury   Son   1844         occ Chair Maker   Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
Matilda   Tilbury   1847          Scholar   Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
Jane   Tilbury   Daug 1853   Scholar   Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
William   Tilbury   Son 1857   Scholar   Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
Sarah   Tilbury   Dau 1844   Scholar   Wycombe
RG09 Piece 856 Folio   90 Page   30

TILBURY, JANE   mmn COX
1852  J Quarter in WYCOMBE  Volume 03A  Page 356   

There is a marriage entry Dec 1837 Wycombe
John Tilbury and Sarah Cox on same page

[rosie99]

One to eliminate

Marriage Dec qtr 1870   
DARVILL    George Ebenezer          
Tilbury    Jane       
Wycombe    3a   715
We can discount this as a previous marriage for Jane marriage as they are together in Reading in 1881 -they have a Henry Tilbury (nephew age 13) with them  RG11/1308 f34 p18

[Eyesee]

25 Jun 1876, Bethnal Green.
Edward RUSSELL, 20, shoemaker, s/o Edward, shoemaker
Jane RAYNER, 19, d/o Stephen, bricklayer.

Jane was born in Bethnal Green, aged 3 in 1861.

Can probably rule this couple out.

Ian C

[Ladyhawk]

25 Jun 1876, Bethnal Green.
Edward RUSSELL, 20, shoemaker, s/o Edward, shoemaker
Jane RAYNER, 19, d/o Stephen, bricklayer.

Jane was born in Bethnal Green, aged 3 in 1861.

Can probably rule this couple out.

Thank you for finding the marriage to confirm that this couple can be ruled out

There is this entry

Jun 1876                  
Norford   Emma              Bethnal Green   1c   594
Palser   Alfred Llewellen      Bethnal Green   1c   594
Rayner   Jane                      Bethnal Green   1c   594
RUSSELL   Edward             Bethnal Green   1c   594

Alfred Palser married Emma Norford they can be found on 1881 census 
son Alfred has mmn Norford,  that indicates Edward Russell married Jane Rayner

three Russell children mmn Rayner 1879 - 1888
Edward (1856) & Jane Russell  (1857) are on the 1891 census with children
Edward, George & Emily

I posted a possibility for Jane Tilbury on 1861 census with parents John & Sarah and the
1881 census with Edward & Jane and their son Bertie E Russell born c 1881 Middlesex. Posted by Rosie his birth register St George Hanover Square June Qtr. 1880

Has anybody found either Edward Russell (b1835) or Jane Tilbury (b1857) on the 1871 censuses to help narrow a possible marriage year ?

Was Edward previously married?

[rosie99]

Sorry, this needs further research 

Could Jane be the daughter of William & Mary Tilbury listed as Mary Jane in 1861 but there is also another daughter Mary (Mary Ann).
RG09/848 f74 p12

Not with the family in 1871 - RG10/1396 f90 p7
Mary Jane is a servant with the Harris family in Uxbridge 1871 age 16 bn Gerrards Cross

TILBURY, MARY  JANE     mmn TRIPP 
1854  Sept Quarter in AMERSHAM  Volume 03A  Page 306

also Sibling who is on 1871 census
TILBURY, WILLIAM  ALBERT     mmn TRIPP 
1863  March Quarter in AMERSHAM  Volume 03A  Page 366

Then I can't find her.