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Re: Henry Kimpton and Susan Trayte
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 06 June 20 19:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Ladyhawk

Thanks for your interest in this research. Some records show Susan as Susannah Alice Kimpton/Trayte.

The death record is added information, so thanks for that. I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that her birth registration didn't happen. Can't find her in the GRO or BMDs.

Henry's birth registration in the GRO does show his mother Mary having the maiden name of Steine which gives me some more info. However I don't think a Mr Kimpton was around by the time Henry was conceived. I have no idea where, when even if Mary was married at one time.
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Re: Henry Kimpton and Susan Trayte
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 06 June 20 21:33 BST (UK) »
Henry and Susan (Henry's second wife) were married Oct/Dec quarter 1886 Holborn RD.

19 Dec 1886, St Mark, Myddelton Square (Clerkenwell)
Henry Thomas Kimpton, 48, Widower, Cordwainer, 14 Compton Street, father James Kimpton, ??
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Susan Alice Trayte, 33

First marriage in 1859 father James was a Baker, so looks like it may say that on the second.

Banns were called at St Giles Cripplegate, 6, 13, 20 Feb 1831
James Kimpton and Mary Barns
Bachelor and spinster.
Not sure that those two actually married, and no idea if any connection. :(

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Re: Henry Kimpton and Susan Trayte
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 06 June 20 22:24 BST (UK) »
Henry's birth registration in the GRO does show his mother Mary having the maiden name of Steine which gives me some more info.

KIMPTON, HENRY       
Mother's Maiden Surname: STEINE 
GRO Reference: 1838  D Quarter in ROYSTON & BUNTINGFORD  Volume 06  Page 464

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I looked at the other births with the same GRO page ref, and was puzzled by the lack of Hertfordshire baptisms.
Possible reason - I think that it is a Cambridgeshire birth, registered in the Melbourne sub-district of Royston (Wallington was Buntingford sub-dist). Others from page 464 are popping up there :)
Possibly he is this Henry Kimpton, 2, here in Litlington in 1841? And born there according to the 51 census.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQRZ-R34

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Re: Henry Kimpton and Susan Trayte
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 06 June 20 22:43 BST (UK) »
Henry's birth registration in the GRO does show his mother Mary having the maiden name of Steine which gives me some more info.

KIMPTON, HENRY       
Mother's Maiden Surname: STEINE 
1838  D Quarter in ROYSTON & BUNTINGFORD 

I looked at the other births with the same GRO page ref, and was puzzled by the lack of Hertfordshire baptisms.
Possible reason - I think that it is a Cambridgeshire birth, registered in the Melbourne sub-district of Royston (Wallington was Buntingford sub-dist). Others from page 464 are popping up there :)

Possibly he is this Henry Kimpton, 2, here in Litlington in 1841? And born there according to the 51 census.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQRZ-R34

Could this be their marriage

14 Feb 1824 Place   WHADDON
Groom Thomas KIMPTON, bac
Groom's residence   of Litlington [BT Lidlington]
Bride Lucy Eleanor BENSTEAD [commonly called STERN], sp
Bride's residence   otp
By licence or banns   by lic
County   Cambridgeshire
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Re: Henry Kimpton and Susan Trayte
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 06 June 20 22:54 BST (UK) »
Hi
Yes, Ladyhawk, that looks a strong possibility. Stern / Steine not dissimilar.
And seems to further rule out the 1838 birth registration.
John

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Re: Henry Kimpton and Susan Trayte
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 06 June 20 22:55 BST (UK) »
Baptism 4 Oct 1839 St Catharine Litlington
Person Henry
Father Thomas
Mother Lucy Eleanor
Father surname   KIMPTON
Person abode   Otp
Occupation Gent
Source FreeREG
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Re: Henry Kimpton and Susan Trayte
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 06 June 20 22:58 BST (UK) »
Benzol will have to forget about that birth registration!

First marriage in 1859 father James was a Baker, so looks like it may say that on the second.

That was in Bethnal Green, and Henry and his wife Eliza are there in 1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-8HHY

What happened to his mum Mary?
Could she have died in 1860? :-\

KIMPTON, MARY       
Age at Death (in years): 65 
GRO Reference: 1860  D Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN  Volume 01C  Page 187

That would make her a bit older than she said previously, and in her mid 40's when HT was born.
Have you got any other possibilities?
A Mary Barnes was baptized in Wallington in 1795 to James and Rose (though in 1851 Mary Kimpton said she was born in Baldock)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J332-7PJ

A lot of speculation there!

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Re: Henry Kimpton and Susan Trayte
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 06 June 20 23:00 BST (UK) »
As mentioned, Mary Kimpton, 40, Henry Kimpton, 2
with Rose Barns, 80, and other Barns, living in Wallington in 1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQYZ-SDB

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Re: Henry Kimpton and Susan Trayte
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 06 June 20 23:19 BST (UK) »
Bethnal Green, Henry and his wife Eliza are there in 1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-8HHY

What happened to his mum Mary?
Could she have died in 1860? :-\

Oh yes, that is her.
Henry living at 12 Barossa Terrace, Bethnal Green. Shoe Maker.

We have a burial for Mary at Victoria Park Cemetery, 30 Nov 1860
That cemetery being in Bethnal Green, not really in Hackney :)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F47L-9QS

I couldn't find her on the index on ancestry, but got the image
Gives Mary Kimpton's residence as Barossa Tce, Cambridge Hth.
Age 65 years.