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Damned with feint praise?????
« on: Monday 08 June 20 14:59 BST (UK) »
I've been rummaging through some newspaper articles online, and came across this death notice today.  I'm not certain that it is phrased with entirely the right words.........  If there has been a change of use of the word deplored, then I would be very interested!

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Re: Damned with feint praise?????
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 June 20 15:02 BST (UK) »
I've been rummaging through some newspaper articles online, and came across this death notice today.  I'm not certain that it is phrased with entirely the right words.........  If there has been a change of use of the word deplored, then I would be very interested!
It does look odd, doesn't it? A google search shows up similar usages, so I don't think it was a mistake.

“His loss is deeply deplored, as he was immensely popular.”


de·plore  (dĭ-plôr′)
tr.v. de·plored, de·plor·ing, de·plores
1. To feel or express strong disapproval of; condemn: "Somehow we had to master events, not simply deplore them" (Henry A. Kissinger).
2. To express sorrow or grief over.
3. To regret; bemoan.


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Re: Damned with feint praise?????
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 June 20 15:04 BST (UK) »
I think it was used as a synonym for lament.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
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Re: Damned with feint praise?????
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 June 20 15:09 BST (UK) »
The death is reported with the same phrasing in both of the local newspapers - making it far less likely to have been a mistaken phrase.  Would there have been a word limit to the death notices, so the phrase "deeply deplored" became shorthand for "we feel a lot of grief and sorrow at the loss of our loved one"?


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Re: Damned with feint praise?????
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 June 20 15:21 BST (UK) »
If I remember correctly you paid a charge for the first few words in the classified section and then by each additional word, so in a similar way to telegrams, people were very often economical with their use of words.
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Re: Damned with feint praise?????
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 June 20 15:56 BST (UK) »
From the OED
Deplored;  Lamented, mourned for.
Deplore; To weep for, bewail, lament; to grieve over, regret deeply.
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Re: Damned with feint praise?????
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 June 20 17:53 BST (UK) »
There is a similar monument in our local church where it says that X was 'deeply regretted by all who knew him'.

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Re: Damned with feint praise?????
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 June 20 08:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your contributions too, AntiqueSam, Stan and Richard.  I find it fascinating how language evolves and develops.

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Re: Damned with feint praise?????
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 June 20 08:38 BST (UK) »
Surely the word "deplored" relates to the instance of "death", rather than the person.  The same would apply to "deeply regretted by all who knew her".
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