SEWARD

[CaroleW]

You cannot view a birth or death cert at a library or records office - you have to buy a copy.  Birth certs up to 1919 & death certs to 1957 are available in pdf format for a reduced price of £7.

Parish records are available both online and at RO's and libraries but you need to check whether they have the particular records you want.  Many libraries offer free Ancestry access

Unfortunately - FH research can be costly and sometimes you cannot move forward in your research without buying certs

[CaroleW]

Did your Edward marry Alice Butcher?  If so - a tree on Ancestry has his mother as Elizabeth Alice Seward b 1852.    There is a birth on freebmd matching those details.

There are 2 deaths - 1920 Chelsea & 1932 Brentford matching her age

I think you really have to accept that Edward was illegitimate - his mother was single and surname Seward

[Dundee]

I think that Elizabeth SEWARD is the same person mentioned in the removal orders for Bethnal Green.  In 1869 she is 24, pregnant, born at Charlotte Street, Whitechapel to James and Sarah, sister of Mrs Jane BANCROFT. 

You will find Elizabeth with her family in 1851:

Class: HO107; Piece: 1522; Folio: 17; Page: 26

1861

Class: RG 9; Piece: 256; Folio: 186; Page: 47

Looking at birth registrations, Sarah's maiden surname was PARKER.

I believe that Edward Thomas is with his mother and John CLEMENTS in Fulham in 1881.

Class: RG11; Piece: 68; Folio: 97; Page: 18

John CLEMENTS    50, Railway labourer, Jersey
Elizabeth CLEMENTS    37, Bethnal Green
Edward CLEMENTS    11, Bethnal Green
Thurza CLEMENTS    3, Bethnal Green

CLEMENTS, THIRZA  ELIZA
Mother's maiden surname: SEWARD     
GRO Reference: 1877  S Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN  Volume 01C  Page 483

Elizabeth also had a sister named Thirza Eliza.

When Thirza CLEMENTS married in 1901 to John CHANTER she named her father as John CLEMENTS, a platelayer.  I cannot see a marriage between John CLEMENTS and Elizabeth SEWARD.

Debra 

[BenRalph]

99.9% probability she was an unmarried Elizabeth Seward - born with the Seward name.

I agree with that. And the 'John Seward' on his marriage is in fact his mum's husband John Clements.

[Dundee]

This may be Elizabeth's birth, named after the street she was born in:

SEAWARD, ELIZABETH  CHARLOTTE
Mother's maiden surname: PARKER     
GRO Reference: 1846  M Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 04  Page 363

Debra 

[Borley Manor]

Reviewing my original findings from years back, I had found a Thomas Daniel Seward born c.1825. He was married to a Fanny (late Brady), formerly (Davis).    He was a cabinetmaker.
They had a child Elizabeth Alice Seward 13.11.1852 in Shoreditch.  They resided at 5, Craven Street.

The confusion reigns supreme as I sit here typing away....!!!!

[Borley Manor]

Oooh!!!  I really don't know what to think.   However, I wonder if any of the numerous off-springs of Edward would have any more information?   I will try and pick one  at random and see where it leads. It does seem possible that the Bethnal Green cabman is likely but why wasn't he on the birth certificate if so, even if he was dead?

Help!!!!

[PaulineJ]

There is NO KNOWN BIOLOGICAL FATHER! No cabman, no anything.

You've been directed towards this, accept it!

[Lady Di]

Interesting information provided by Dundee because:
1901 census: Edward Seward, wife Alice + 2 children lived at 35 Garvan Rd Fulham/Hammersmith
1901 : Thurza Clements marr June 1901 to John Chanter. Her address was 35 Garvan Rd Fulham
1911 census: Edward Seward etc at 35 Garvan Rd
1919 : Edward Seward's 2nd marriage - his address was 35 Garvan Rd

Appears that Edward's half sister married from his home in 1901.