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Public houses in Leverstock Green
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 08:44 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to make sense of the hostelries of the village in the 19th century. From my reading, there appear to have been 5 named public houses which I have attempted to place on the small map as follows:

The White Horse (B) which was next to the Post Office (A)
Leather Bottle (C)
The Red Lion (D)
The Rose and Crown (E)

But where should I place (F) - The Three Horse Shoes?
Towards the turn of the century this was turned into an early garage and was said to have been in the middle of the village. Was it the building in the middle of the green with the path from (C) to (E) running by the side?

Many thanks
Alan

* Details gleaned from the censuses of 1851 and 1861 and the Leverstock Chronicle website


 
Leicester / Northampton: Craxford,  Claypole, Pridmore, Pollard, Tansley, Crane, Tilley
Derby: Naylor, Ball, Haywood
Buckinghamshire: Cook
London: Craxford, Lane Crauford
Tyneside: Nessworthy, Simpson
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Re: Public houses in Leverstock Green
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 June 20 09:08 BST (UK) »
Hi
1851+61 James Priest b1810Buckshill [Blacksmith & Beer Retailer) and family
PubWiki.co.uk has a little more
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Garage? Clue maybe "Blacksmith"
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Re: Public houses in Leverstock Green
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 June 20 09:23 BST (UK) »
Hi     

You may wish to verify that these are in/ut of your chosen definition of Leverstock Green?

Brickmakers Arms, Bennets End, Leverstock Green, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire
 Crab Tree, High Street, Leverstock Green, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire
 Honest Coal Carter, Balcony, Leverstock Green, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire
 Horse Shoes / Three Horse Shoes, Leverstock Green, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire
 Leather Bottle, Leverstock Green, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire
 Masons Arms, St Albans Road, Leverstock Green, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire
 Plough Inn, St Albans Road, Leverstock Green, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire
 Red Lion, Leverstock Green, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire
 Rose & Crown, Leverstock Green, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire
 White Horse, Leverstock Green, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire

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Re: Public houses in Leverstock Green
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 June 20 09:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Ray
Unfortunately that doesn't tell us the address of the The Horse Shoes. Buckshill Hertfordshire was where James Priest was born (it's on the road to Kings Langley)

Alan
Leicester / Northampton: Craxford,  Claypole, Pridmore, Pollard, Tansley, Crane, Tilley
Derby: Naylor, Ball, Haywood
Buckinghamshire: Cook
London: Craxford, Lane Crauford
Tyneside: Nessworthy, Simpson
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Re: Public houses in Leverstock Green
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 June 20 09:28 BST (UK) »
"The Three Horseshoes PH was situated at the centre of the village where the modern BP filling station, which still retains the name, can be found."

https://bacchronicle.homestead.com/ThreeHorseshoes.html

https://hemel-hempstead.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/three-horseshoes-filling-station-16518696.html
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Re: Public houses in Leverstock Green
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 June 20 09:33 BST (UK) »
Hi
I thought it may have helped to get closer.     

Especially the garage/blacksmith bit

Ray
ps I lived "a mile" from Buckshill for 45 years.     
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Re: Public houses in Leverstock Green
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 June 20 10:04 BST (UK) »
What surprises me I guess is that beer selling appears to have been a secondary occupation. They are all blacksmith and beerseller; shoemaker and beerseller; wheelwright and beerseller etc.

Unfortunately Pubwiki is lacking in details. I do know, for instance, that the beer seller of the Three Horse Shoes in 1864 was George Dell because he was summoned for selling beer outside of Prohibited hours (10:35pm). The report described the offence as "Largessing" Anyway he was fined sixpence with fourteen shillings and told not to do it again! He was also noted to have been the licencee there for eleven years.  (Report in The Hertford Mercury: Saturday September 24th 1864)

Alan
Leicester / Northampton: Craxford,  Claypole, Pridmore, Pollard, Tansley, Crane, Tilley
Derby: Naylor, Ball, Haywood
Buckinghamshire: Cook
London: Craxford, Lane Crauford
Tyneside: Nessworthy, Simpson
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Re: Public houses in Leverstock Green
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 June 20 10:19 BST (UK) »

"What surprises me I guess is that beer selling appears to have been a secondary occupation"     
It was.A secondary occupation. "Carried out as much by Women, and sold in their Lounge".       
They were only allowed to sell beer "at that time"     
Full licenses (to sell Spirits and food etc = "Licensed Victualler") were much more expensive.

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Re: Public houses in Leverstock Green
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 June 20 10:20 BST (UK) »
Thomas Cooper, corn salesman, is listed at the Three Horseshoes in 1851. I expect you will have that already.
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