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Agnes COLEMAN - Australia arrival shipping details?
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 11:06 BST (UK) »
Hi, Looking for the immigration details and birth record for Agnes COLEMAN.  Born approx. 1841, Blarney, Cork, Ireland (re Death record).  Died 4 Nov 1914 Qld BDM Reg 002431.  Parents on death cert are Edward COLEMAN & Bridie CRONIN. 

Have found 2 possible sisters of Agnes - Norry COLEMAN (Baptism 01 May 1831) & Mary COLEMAN (Baptism 09 June 1833) also in Blarney.

Also looking for info on Agnes’ parents Edward & Bridie.

Thanks.

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Re: Agnes COLEMAN - Australia arrival shipping details?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 June 20 23:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,

From that death cert,  what is the answer to the question: how long in the colonies/states.

ADD ....qld bdm online death index as Agnes MEIKLE.

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Re: Agnes COLEMAN - Australia arrival shipping details?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 June 20 01:21 BST (UK) »
Victoria bdm has a marriage for Agnes COLMAN and James MEIKLE IN 1874.  Ref # 880. Note spelling for Agnes surname.

I think that Mrs Agnes MEIKLE was at Chaters Towers, Qld in 1889.  I am on e reader so cannot do live links to Trove digitised newspapers, but there is a lengthy article regarding a court action involving Mrs Agnes MEIKLE and her concerns about her husband's murder/death in Victoria...

ADD  The Northern Miner, 9 Jan 1889.

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Re: Agnes COLEMAN - Australia arrival shipping details?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 June 20 01:42 BST (UK) »
Court article referenced by JM, 2nd last column:

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article76976475

The death referenced:

Agnes Meikle
Event date: 4-11-1914
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1914/C/2431
Mother: Bride Cronin
Father/parent: Edward Coleman

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Re: Agnes COLEMAN - Australia arrival shipping details?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 June 20 01:51 BST (UK) »
In the article Agnes claims that the man she attacked is responsible for her husbands murder.

She possibly married in 1874 and is in court in 1889.

QLDBDM has only one death between those years:

James Meikle
Event date: 6-11-1887
Event type: Death registration
Registration details: 1887/C/2053
Mother: Margaret Adams
Father/parent: James Meikle

Possibly the problem James was having with the company referred to in the court proceedings, 2nd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78586791

The company replies, 4th column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78586845

Court case, 4th last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78587670

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Re: Agnes COLEMAN - Australia arrival shipping details?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 June 20 03:12 BST (UK) »
Hi,

From that death cert,  what is the answer to the question: how long in the colonies/states.

ADD ....qld bdm online death index as Agnes MEIKLE.

JM

Trees on Ancestry, including probably the OP's, have a lot of information, certificates, trove results, electoral rolls etc.

Gleaning from these -

Agnes Meikle
Died 4 Nov 1914
f Edward COLEMAN m Bride CRONIN
Qld reg 1914/C/2431

Death cert. Qld 1914
Agnes MEIKLE
born Blaney Cork Ireland
52 years Queensland died aged 73y
Children Living Edward 50y Deceased Nil


Death cert. Qld 1926
Edward Thomas Coleman Cartwright known as Meikle
born Geelong Vic
5 years Victoria 57 years Queensland died aged 62y
f Thomas CARTWRIGHT engineer


Baptism Jan 13 1862
Thomas Edmund
born Dec 9 1861
f Thomas CARTNELL
m Agnes COLEMAN
Abode - 'Geelong' is aligned next mother's name, not centred as other couples on the page, and no 'formerly' or similar to indicate married or not for anyone. This has me wondering if Agnes' child was conceived before the voyage out?

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Re: Agnes COLEMAN - Australia arrival shipping details?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 June 20 05:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks All.
Yes, my tree is on Ancestry.com and I have a lot of info on Agnes in Australia.  She married James MEIKLE as a Coleman so I don’t think she was ever married to Edward’s father. 
Edward was born in Victoria so I’m not sure when Agnes came out to Aust.   On her death certificate she was 52yrs in Qld. 

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Re: Agnes COLEMAN - Australia arrival shipping details?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 June 20 08:51 BST (UK) »
From Ancestry link thru to Findagrave.com. No photo but "notes on gravesite, hepatitis, gastritis "
So  not murdered ? and died in Qld but Agnes was in Victoria around this time according to newspaper article.( already quoted)
Name:   James Meikle
Death Date:   6 Nov 1887
Cemetery:   Charters Towers Pioneer Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place:   Charters Towers, Charters Towers Region, Queensland, Australia
Has Bio?:   N
URL:   https://www.findagrave.com/
HUME: Fermanagh, Donegal,Sligo,Australia
PASFIELD: Essex, London
SHAW/STANLEY: Co Waterford,Ireland, Australia

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Re: Agnes COLEMAN - Australia arrival shipping details?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 June 20 01:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks all. 

The details I’m interested in and can’t locate are ship, arrival date to Aust and the birth record for Agnes COLEMAN.  Born approx. 1841, Blarney, Cork, Ireland (re Death record).

Can anyone help with these?