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Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« on: Sunday 14 June 20 12:23 BST (UK) »
There seems to be a consensus in several unreferenced trees out there that a Thomas Louch (sometimes Loutch, Lowch etc) was born somewhere in Berkshire about 1735 and was the son of Bryant (sometimes Briant) and Susanna (nee Culham).

His parents were married on 13 October 1734 at Besselsleigh. Christenings for six (or five) other children for this couple appear in the indexes at FamilySearch; the others were baptised at either Besselsleigh or Cumnor, between 1738 and 1756. However, Thomas does not seem to make an appearance in parish registers anywhere – until his marriage to Susanna Salisbury, on 9 November 1760, at St Andrew's Church, Headington.

Some trees suggest that Thomas was born and/or died at "Sandford" (logically, Dry Sandford or Sandford-on-Thames, although other trees suggest the lesser known, and less likely, Sanford in Sonning). Some give a date of 4 January 1735 (while others say 1 April – probably a transposition).

I would be grateful for any suggestions or references that anyone has at hand. Thank you.

Lee: prob. Buckinghamshire
Chapman: London
Bowen: London (+ prob. Pembrokeshire)
Owen: West Yorkshire
Bradbury: Oxfordshire/Berkshire
Ayton: London (+ reputedly Scotland)
White: Hertfordshire
Wormald: West Yorkshire
Holland: prob. Kilkenny/Laois
Morris: Somerset/Wiltshire
Small: Somerset/Wiltshire
Wood: West Yorkshire
Blackmore: London
Bundock: Essex/Cambridgeshire
Coxall/Coxell/Coxwell: Hertfordshire/Essex
Hardaker/Hardacre: West Yorkshire
Glynn: Galway/Roscommon

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Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 June 20 13:04 BST (UK) »
What were the names of Thomas's children and when/where were they born
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 June 20 14:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rosie; I have the following christenings:
* Mary, 1761 (Kingston Bagpuize);
* Susanna, 1762 (Kingston Bagpuize);
* Mary, 1764 (Besselsleigh);
* Briant, 1768 (Besselsleigh);
* Hannah, 1770 (Besselsleigh);
* Hannah, 1773 (Besselsleigh);
* Rachel, 1776 (Besselsleigh).

So the names Mary and Hannah appear to have been recycled. (It looks like the first Mary died soon after being christened.)
Lee: prob. Buckinghamshire
Chapman: London
Bowen: London (+ prob. Pembrokeshire)
Owen: West Yorkshire
Bradbury: Oxfordshire/Berkshire
Ayton: London (+ reputedly Scotland)
White: Hertfordshire
Wormald: West Yorkshire
Holland: prob. Kilkenny/Laois
Morris: Somerset/Wiltshire
Small: Somerset/Wiltshire
Wood: West Yorkshire
Blackmore: London
Bundock: Essex/Cambridgeshire
Coxall/Coxell/Coxwell: Hertfordshire/Essex
Hardaker/Hardacre: West Yorkshire
Glynn: Galway/Roscommon

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Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 June 20 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hi grantl,

The marriage you mention in Besselsleigh for 13-10-1734 is recorded as;
Briant Lovet to Susanna Cullol.

Unfotunately I can't see any entries for Susanna nor  a baptism for a Thomas Loutch although there
are many entries for this surname.

As the 1st child was bapt.. in Kingston Bagpuize I looked there but couldn't find an entry for Thomas there.

I also checked out Cumnor but nothing relevant there either.

I used the transcripts from the OxfordFHS for these parishes.

Alan
Browse, Peggs, Revans/Revance/Ribbans, Spall,   in Suffolk/Norfolk
Belcher, Elderfield, Froude, Saunders,  Stimson, Tame,   in Berks
Artis, Gray in Norfolk


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Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 June 20 19:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Alan. I am fortunate to have access to the results of some old genealogical research by a distant cousin – but not fortunate enough to know what all of the original sources were. 
Lee: prob. Buckinghamshire
Chapman: London
Bowen: London (+ prob. Pembrokeshire)
Owen: West Yorkshire
Bradbury: Oxfordshire/Berkshire
Ayton: London (+ reputedly Scotland)
White: Hertfordshire
Wormald: West Yorkshire
Holland: prob. Kilkenny/Laois
Morris: Somerset/Wiltshire
Small: Somerset/Wiltshire
Wood: West Yorkshire
Blackmore: London
Bundock: Essex/Cambridgeshire
Coxall/Coxell/Coxwell: Hertfordshire/Essex
Hardaker/Hardacre: West Yorkshire
Glynn: Galway/Roscommon

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Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 June 20 05:36 BST (UK) »
For what it's worth, Thomas Louch "of Sandford" appears to have died and been buried in the first week of April 1780:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8YS-96T
Lee: prob. Buckinghamshire
Chapman: London
Bowen: London (+ prob. Pembrokeshire)
Owen: West Yorkshire
Bradbury: Oxfordshire/Berkshire
Ayton: London (+ reputedly Scotland)
White: Hertfordshire
Wormald: West Yorkshire
Holland: prob. Kilkenny/Laois
Morris: Somerset/Wiltshire
Small: Somerset/Wiltshire
Wood: West Yorkshire
Blackmore: London
Bundock: Essex/Cambridgeshire
Coxall/Coxell/Coxwell: Hertfordshire/Essex
Hardaker/Hardacre: West Yorkshire
Glynn: Galway/Roscommon

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Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 June 20 07:27 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Yes - Thomas Louch of Sandford bur. 4-4-1780 in Besslesleigh St.Lawrence and  a Susannah Louch, of Abingdon parish bur. 7-7-1785 also in Besselsleigh. (is this his wife??)

From the transcripts by Oxfordshire FHS.

Alan
Browse, Peggs, Revans/Revance/Ribbans, Spall,   in Suffolk/Norfolk
Belcher, Elderfield, Froude, Saunders,  Stimson, Tame,   in Berks
Artis, Gray in Norfolk

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Re: Thomas Louch, born c. 1735?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 June 20 08:31 BST (UK) »
Alan, yes that's probably them.

Although ... some trees have that Susanna as his mother (nee Culham). The sources are not named, but I guess it wasn't unprecedented for a woman in the 18th century to outlive her oldest son.
Lee: prob. Buckinghamshire
Chapman: London
Bowen: London (+ prob. Pembrokeshire)
Owen: West Yorkshire
Bradbury: Oxfordshire/Berkshire
Ayton: London (+ reputedly Scotland)
White: Hertfordshire
Wormald: West Yorkshire
Holland: prob. Kilkenny/Laois
Morris: Somerset/Wiltshire
Small: Somerset/Wiltshire
Wood: West Yorkshire
Blackmore: London
Bundock: Essex/Cambridgeshire
Coxall/Coxell/Coxwell: Hertfordshire/Essex
Hardaker/Hardacre: West Yorkshire
Glynn: Galway/Roscommon