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Re: The Elusive William McRoskell
« Reply #9 on: Monday 15 June 20 17:57 BST (UK) »
Have you ever found him on any census to determine his birthyear & birthplace?

Before reading the comments below, no, I had not found him on any census.

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Re: The Elusive William McRoskell
« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 June 20 18:01 BST (UK) »
Lets start with 1871 census. Ref RG10 1688 48 4.

William ROSS 46 Watchmaker born Liverpool
Elizabeth Ross 26 born??? Sussex
Rose Ross 5 Ashford Kent
Violetta Ross 2 Newport Hampshire
St CLARE Ross 2 months Colchester Essex (recorded as son)

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Wow, thanks for this. This looks like it definitely could be him. I'm very confused why St Clair says he is born in Edinburgh on other records then?

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Re: The Elusive William McRoskell
« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 June 20 18:03 BST (UK) »
Good find John  ;D

Birth Mar qtr 1871 
ROSS    St Clare Caffyn       
Colchester    4a   314   

1881 also has St Clare as born Colchester
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q274-XQP3


Thank you so much for this! He certainly has an unusual first name


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Re: The Elusive William McRoskell
« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 June 20 18:05 BST (UK) »
Got him.

1881 census ref RG11 1440 8 9

William FRAZER 56 Watchmaker born Liverpool
Esther Frazer 34 born Staines Middlesex.

Death: William MCROSKEL Frazer aged 63(c1824) JQ 1887 Watford 3a 288

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Wow, thank you again!
I'm so confused what his actual surname is then???
Was he a Frazer, a Ross, a Mcroskell or something else!!

Also, if he had died in 1887, but Elizabeth was living with John Tutt on the 1881 census?
So either this was bigamous/she didn't marry John Tutt/she divorced or left William?
I'm still searching for a marriage between John Tutt and and an Elizabeth, but drawing blanks, so I'm wondering if they actually did marry?


Because if this is William he is claiming Esther is his wife in 1881?

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Re: The Elusive William McRoskell
« Reply #13 on: Monday 15 June 20 21:45 BST (UK) »
Hi, What do others think of the transcription of RG09 448 61 55. Anc* has William M Roshell. FindMyPast has William M Boshell. To me it looks like Roskell(e) I know it records born Belper Derbyshire but this man has told may lies and he is a watchmaker.

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Re: The Elusive William McRoskell
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 16 June 20 01:27 BST (UK) »
Opening post says all childrens marriage certs show him as a silversmith
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Re: The Elusive William McRoskell
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 16 June 20 10:00 BST (UK) »
Opening post says all childrens marriage certs show him as a silversmith
I quiet agree CaroleW with your comment re silversmith. I wonder if he made cases for gentleman's watches?

Without evidence/proof I believe him to be one William ROSKELL born c1824/1825 Liverpool. There are in Liverpool around the time of his birth a very large family of Roskells who are Watchmakers/Watch Manufacturers, gold and silversmiths, jewellers. Cannot tie him in though. FindMyPast has some newspaper articles about a William Roskell(cannot read as no subscription) that appear could be him.

I wonder what the birth certificates of Lois, Rose, Violetta & St Clare record as his "occupation"

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Re: The Elusive William McRoskell
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 16 June 20 12:54 BST (UK) »
I definitely think I'm going to order the children's birth certificates as I would find that to be very interesting too!

Thank you very much for the census suggestion. I zoomed in on it and I agree it could look very much like Roskell too. If this is him it does seem a very random place to suggest he was born! (I guess it could have been recorded wrong)


I have just zoomed in on one of the newspaper articles (from 1856), and it says William Roskell, son of Robert Roskell. He's purchasing machinery from someone in Derbyshire (also a watchmaker). Which could possibly explain why he said he was born in Derbyshire if this him on the census.


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Re: The Elusive William McRoskell
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 16 June 20 17:20 BST (UK) »
on St Clair C McRoskell's marriage 14 May 1898 father is given as William McRoskell deceased Watch Maker

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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