Payne/Beenham post 1911

[warncoort]

Folks,
Thomas Parker Payne (b 1888 New York)marries Lily Beenham (b 1887 Camberwell) on 10 Sep 1911 at All Saints,North Peckham,they have five children between 1912 and 1924.
I can not find them on 1939 register nor deaths which can be confirmed.
Hoping someone can see what i have missed.
Marriage record shows address for both parties as 21 Summer Rd.
Eric

[Kay99]

Just a thought - could this birth have been mistranscribed??

Births Jun Qtr 1918   
Frank Payne mmn  Banham    Camberwell    1d   1139

Kay

[warncoort]

That fills a hole in the family.

[Kay99]

Try looking for him in Camberwell in 1939 with other siblings - we aren't allowed to post detials 

Kay

[chempat]

Depends whether you use Ancestry or F M P  - Frank is still redacted on Ancestry.

Have you got exact dates of birth for any of them to help find some deaths?  Or is it just parents' deaths you want?

Names and ages might be 'out' by time of death, and births from previous year registered in the next year.  If ages from marriage certificate, not always accurate.

[chempat]

There is a death in Camberwell that fits with 1939 information for Thomas.  Also will, if he was living at Colyton Road at death.

[chempat]

The marriage in 1911 does not use 'Parker' in his name?  When does he record it?

He is recorded as 25 in 1911, so born 1885/1886 - where does his birth year of 1888 come from?

[chempat]

His marriage in 1911 gives his Father as William, deceased.  William is a labourer, Thomas is a carman.

There is a baptism for a Thomas Payne with father William in Southwark on 26 February, 1886, and mother Mary Ann, father is a carman.

[KGarrad]

Depends whether you use Ancestry or F M P  - Frank is still redacted on Ancestry.

Ancestry update their 1939 Register once per year.
FindMyPast update (I think?) monthly.