Can anyone explain why !!

[JeannieR]

Hi
My Great Great Grandparents were Maurice and Catherine McAuliffe,from Cork. They married in Middlesbough in 1861.

I have managed to find the births deaths and marriages of all  their children, under various spellings of that name, not a easy task ! it took me years.

It took me many years also,to find them on any census, apart from 1861,before they married.....When I DID find them, they were  using the name Gould.

1871 att 10 Mineral Street. Middlesborough
1881 at 69, Hymer Street, Ormesby . Maurice transcribed as Horace
1891 Maurice was in hospital, as  Gould,but died very shortly afterwards, as McAuliffe

Can anyone come up with a reason for the name change, it has baffled me for years.

Many thanks

JeannieR

[M_ONeill]

Do you have the exact death date for Maurice? FindMyPast has a burial record for a Maurice Gould, who died on 31st July 1891. Buried at St Joseph's Catholic Cemetery.

Given the coincidence of the death year, I'm wondering if Gould may have been an alias surname.

EDIT: There's also a civil record for his death, under the name of Gould. When you say he died as McCauliffe, what record are you going by?

[Spelk]

Also used the name GOULD on his gravestone. Probably wanted to avoid the discrimination against the Irish and/or association with the Finians.

Would I be right in thinking that Catherine's maiden name was GOULD?
Edit 20 June.

1851 census, 11 New Row, Northallerton
William GOULD Head Mar 37 Royal Sapper and Miner and Ordinance Surveyor Devonshire Landkey
Johana do Wife Mar 33 Ireland Cork
Catherine do daur 9 Ireland do
other children

That looks very like the Catherine who later Married to Morris GOULD.
Unfortunately that does not seem to work as Catherine GOULD in the 1861 census was with her family in Stanwix, Cumberland where her father was Master of a Reformatory.
The parents with a daughter Hannah age 11 were still in Stanwix in 1871.

So still leaves the problem as to why Maurice would use McAULIFF for the births of all his children but GOULD for the census records etc including his death and burial. Why not a full change of name to GOULD. Only reason I can think of is that the priest knew his real name and so the children would be baptised with it.

If I have the right baptism in Freemount, Limerick & Cork, Ireland on 14 Oct 1831 then Maurice’s parents were Jn McCAULIF & Bridget DALY so no “GOULD” there and not from His wife Catherine STACK’s family I think.

1861 census, 20 West St., Middlesbro
George MARTIN Head Mar 32 Grocer Ireland
his wife, children and a brother
Catherine STACK serv Unm 24 Servant Ireland
Mary COLLINGS serv Unm 15 Servant Ireland

Marriage q4 1861 Stockton 10a 130 - Maurice MCAULIFFE & Catherine STACK.
Birth of Joanna MCCOULIFF mmn STACK q3 1862 Stockton 10a 42
Birth Mary Ann MACAULEY mmn STARK q2 1864 Stockton 10a 46
Birth Ellen MCRULIFFE mmn STACK q4 1865 Stockton 10a 57
Birth John MCCOOLIFF mmn STACK q2 1868 Stockton 10a 68
Birth John MCCOOLIF mmn STACK q3 1869 Stockton 10a 75

A November 1868 item mentions a drunken man named Morris GOULD, labourer of Mineral Street.

1871 census, Mineral Street. Middlesbro
Morris GOULD Head Mar 40 Labourer Ireland
Catherine do Wife Mar 30 do
Mary do daur 7 Scholar YKS Middlesbro
Ellen do daur 5 Scholar YKS do
John do son 1 YKS do
John DALEY Lodger Unm 35 Labourer Ireland
John MOORE Lodger Unm 28 Labourer Ireland
4 more Lodgers

Birth Catherine MCCOWLIFF mmn STACK q1 1872 Stockton 10a 58
Birth Morris MCCOWLIF mmn STACK q3 1874 Stockton 10a 59
Birth Margaret McCOWLIFF mmn STACK q4 1876 Mddlesbro 9d 572
Birth Bridget McCOWLIFF mmn STACK q3 1878 Middlebro 9d 599
Birth William MACKOWLIF mmn STACK q4 1880 Middlesbro 9d 583

1881 census, 69 Hymer St, North Ormesby
Horace GOULD Head Mar 50 Labourer Ireland Limerick
Catherine do Wife Mar 40 Ireland Cork
Catherine do daur 9 Scholar YKS Middlesbro
Horace do son 7 Scholar YKS do
Bridget do daur 2 YKS do
William do son 6 mo YKS do

1891 census, 33 Tees Street, Ormesby
Morris GOULD Head Mar ? in Hospital (all crossed out)
Catherine do Wife Mar 50 YKS Middlesbro
Catherine do daur Unm 19 YKS do
Morris do son Unm 16 YKS do
Bridget do daur 12 YKS do
Wm do son 10 YKS North Ormesby
John DACR Lodger Unm 30 Iron Works Labourer Wales

[JeannieR]

Thank You both,

For your input.

M_Oneill
That is so obviously, my great grandfather's death and burial,in 1891.
.I was not aware that there was any Catholic information, in Middlesborough, available on find my past. Thanks to you, I have also found Catherine's death and burial in 1916,again at St Joseph's,with the name Gould. Also came up with their daughter, Johanna's baptism and burial. Again Gould, although she was registered as McCouliff in 1862....

All the other children, with mothers maiden name Stack,are mine.

Spelk

I think the baptism you found for Maurice in 1831 is the correct one. According to their marriage certificate his father was Jeremiah.

I would be interested to know which site you found the details of his drunkeness.

It is a long time since I did my research into this side of the family,that I had put it on the back burner, so to speak.Thanks to you two, I have gone back to them

JeannieR

[Spelk]

The item was from the Richmond and Ripon Chronicle of 28 Nov 1868. I mentioned it only as it showed him using that name at that time. -
A butcher by the name of Richard BAILEY of North Ormesby was driving a cart down Durham Street. Middlesbro on Sunday Morning when a drunken man, named Morris GOULD. labourer, Minerlal Street, staggered in front of the vehicle. and was knocked down by the wheel and bruised about the head.

I accessed it using my Findmypast sub but you can search for free on the British Newspaper Archives and get articles on temporary membership or maybe pay as you go as far as I remember.

I note you have not answered the question of the other responder as to where you found a reference to the death of Maurice McAULIFF, rather than Morris GOULD. Did you slip up?