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Re: Genealogy frustrations.
« Reply #45 on: Friday 24 July 20 16:17 BST (UK) »
Ancestors with some property who never seemed to leave a will. I guess a private arrangement was made, or the will was written but never proved.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Genealogy frustrations.
« Reply #46 on: Friday 24 July 20 18:49 BST (UK) »
My common surnames.
Thats my headache.  My Johnson ancestor married a Brown in the 1800s and I have never ever been certain I have the right Brown even doing DNA. 
 That is but 2 of my common surnames where there are to many choices that "could be" my ancestor and there is no way I can rule out every possible one.  This is in the Durham Northumberland area.
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Re: Genealogy frustrations.
« Reply #47 on: Friday 24 July 20 21:23 BST (UK) »
My common surnames.
Thats my headache.  My Johnson ancestor married a Brown in the 1800s and I have never ever been certain I have the right Brown even doing DNA. 
 That is but 2 of my common surnames where there are to many choices that "could be" my ancestor and there is no way I can rule out every possible one.  This is in the Durham Northumberland area.
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Oh Durham, Northumberland and Essex IMHO are very difficult counties to research due to the higher amount of the same surnames in those 3 counties. The amount of Brown's, Wilsons, Hodgsons, Robson's and Johnson's is astronomical. You may find the odd name like Smurthwaite thrown in for a variety.

Essex is the same, the sheer amount of Mead's, Webb's, Groves, Woods, Hurrell's, Moss', Newman's, Alger's and Cornwell's is high outside Smith's and Brown's. If I have an ancestor born about 1750, I have about 10 candidates to choose from. it is virtually impossible to know which, if any of them is mine if they did not leave a will. You may find a sibling through a witness to a marriage but even then about 6 of the candidates have a sibling of the same name.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain


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Re: Genealogy frustrations.
« Reply #48 on: Friday 24 July 20 21:58 BST (UK) »
It's true that when you turn up a Brown or a Smith or a Jones your heart sinks at the difficulties to come, but counterintuitively you can have just as much trouble with a more unusual name which can attract multiple spellings.

I'm in favour of distinctive middle names.   ;D

Most of my ancestors don't seem to have been, though  :(
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Re: Genealogy frustrations.
« Reply #49 on: Monday 27 July 20 10:16 BST (UK) »
My frustrations are on birth certificates with mothers maiden name different from the one she married with. Out of 7 children the first 5 have alternating maiden names eg, Smith, Brown, Smith, Brown and Smith. No other marriages or reasons for this so Iím stuck in finding out who is telling the truth.
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I have one like that, but in this case the lady was a widow and therefore married in the surname of her first husband. She had several children with second husband. Presumably when registering some of the children she misunderstood the question and gave her previous surname not her maiden surname.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
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Re: Genealogy frustrations.
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 30 July 20 18:50 BST (UK) »
When you are pretty sure you have nailed it and have a lot of strong evidence leading to it but cannot find the definitive proof that what you have found is correct. And people who are passionate about genealogy often feel like they need to know, and try to find the clincher, or even have it disproven as at least you know.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Genealogy frustrations.
« Reply #51 on: Saturday 01 August 20 22:46 BST (UK) »
It's true that when you turn up a Brown or a Smith or a Jones your heart sinks at the difficulties to come, but counterintuitively you can have just as much trouble with a more unusual name which can attract multiple spellings.

I'm in favour of distinctive middle names.   ;D

Most of my ancestors don't seem to have been, though  :(

I can sympathize! It's a similar story with my Welsh ancestors - Jones, Roberts, Williams, Evans - etc.  Thank goodness my great grandmother's surname was Wigley, or I might still be looking... LOL

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Re: Genealogy frustrations.
« Reply #52 on: Saturday 08 August 20 14:58 BST (UK) »
Although these frustrations give us a challenge and make use determined.  :)

One frustration is when ancestors from 1837 onwards married in a NC chapel or in the registry office, meaning you have to buy the cert, after trotting to the record office and looking at every parish in the reg district and finding nothing. Or the Ancestry county marriage transcripts not listing your ancestors marriage, indicating a RO wedding or NC wedding.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Genealogy frustrations.
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 23 August 20 21:05 BST (UK) »
My biggest frustration is my Irish ancestry. Like a lot of people I struggle with lack of records and surnames being too similar to be of any use in filling in the gaps.

I know almost nothing about that side of my family, not the details of their life, not anything really approaching the level I've been able to find out about other relatives.
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