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Offline Yvonne Donnellon

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Re: Help with early army records
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 12:47 BST (UK) »
Have you found Neals on 1861? William must have died 1860 - 1866.

NOT this death
NEAL, WILLIAM  HENRY MAUNDER    2
GRO Reference: 1861  J Quarter in PLYMOUTH  Volume 05B  Page 181

Found a record for Oct 1866?

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Re: Help with early army records
« Reply #46 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 13:17 BST (UK) »
But Isabella remarried April/May/Jun 1866.

1861 RG 9; Piece: 1411; Folio: 8; Page: 7 [note mistranscription of surname on ancestry, has been commented on 2009 by ancestry member north219 ] Tormoham, Torquay
Isabella Eal   31 M dressmaker b Scotland
Isabella M Eal   3 b Plymouth
William A Eal   1 b Portsmouth

No William senior present, so his age, occupation & birthplace a mystery. Maybe look for childrens' baptisms for his occupation, or get marriage record?
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Help with early army records
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 13:25 BST (UK) »
But Isabella remarried April/May/Jun 1866.

1861 RG 9; Piece: 1411; Folio: 8; Page: 7 [note mistranscription of surname on ancestry, has been commented on 2009 by ancestry member north219 ]
Isabella Eal   31 M dressmaker b Scotland
Isabella M Eal   3 b Plymouth
William A Eal   1 b Portsmouth

No William senior present, so his age, occupation & birthplace a mystery. Maybe look for childrens' baptisms for his occupation, or get marriage record?

William was a sailor, I found the 1841 census for him. I wonder if he died at sea?  I'll revisit the death record, thank you!  Now got the Wylies all the way back to 1790's William Wylie, Isobella's father was the coastguard in the Orkney Islands!

My cousin is OVERWHELMED by all this, he has always had an infinity with the sea, so now has a better understanding of roots.


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Re: Help with early army records
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 13:29 BST (UK) »
According to the marriage entry in parish register, William was a private in Royal Marines living at Marine Barracks, full age [not helpful!] father John a labourer. William made mark, Isabella signed, witnesses Louisa Neal [mark] & the church clerk.

ADDED: Louisa Neal may be William's sister or mother.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Help with early army records
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 14:14 BST (UK) »
According to the marriage entry in parish register, William was a private in Royal Marines living at Marine Barracks, full age [not helpful!] father John a labourer. William made mark, Isabella signed, witnesses Louisa Neal [mark] & the church clerk.

Can you link to that please?

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Re: Help with early army records
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 14:47 BST (UK) »
It's on findmypast Devon marriages so you will need to be a subscriber to see.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FPLY%2F004634644%2F00106&parentid=GBPRS%2FM%2F35138360%2F1.

I found this in the Newspaper Archive, obviously no idea whether it is your William Neal
William Neal, another seaman, was charged with being drunk and incapable of taking care of himself on the previous night.
10 March 1862 - Western Daily Mercury. - Plymouth, Devon, England
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Help with early army records
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 01 July 20 15:13 BST (UK) »
It's on findmypast Devon marriages so you will need to be a subscriber to see.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS%2FPLY%2F004634644%2F00106&parentid=GBPRS%2FM%2F35138360%2F1.

I found this in the Newspaper Archive, obviously no idea whether it is your William Neal
William Neal, another seaman, was charged with being drunk and incapable of taking care of himself on the previous night.
10 March 1862 - Western Daily Mercury. - Plymouth, Devon, England


I've just subscribed for a month thank you again!