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Re: Peter Johnston or Johstone
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 04 July 20 20:23 BST (UK) »
Rosie, I do have a copy of Peter Third's birth certificate & it does state his mother is Eliza Third. Like you I cannot find any evidence of Eliza marrying.I had a look at the John Blackhall marriages but could not see any connection.
David, where did the name Davidson come from? Who were the witnesses in the 1902 marriage?
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Re: Peter Johnston or Johstone
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 05 July 20 06:06 BST (UK) »
Looking at the image of the 1902 marriage this morning the father's name is 'Peter Johnston', underneath, 'Farm Servant' below that (Deceased) then what looks ' Elsie Davidson' (I have tried magnification but cannot make it any clearer) . The letter 'D' looks similiar to the 'D' on deceased.
 Under her name is some initials and the word 'Third'.
The witness were the Minister and for Jane there was a 'Cruickshank (cant make out first name)
and a 'John' (cant make out surname)...wish there was a way to get a copy to you for you to see.
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Re: Peter Johnston or Johstone
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 05 July 20 09:17 BST (UK) »
There is a tree on Ancestry with a copy of both marriage's on the marriage to Jane Cruickshank the witness is a John Moir or Mair ..Can't make out the first name of the Cruickshank witness
The Mothers name is listed as Elsie Davidson ...On the birth certificate for Peter what name does it give for the mother is it Elsie or Elspet ?

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Re: Peter Johnston or Johstone
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 05 July 20 09:23 BST (UK) »
Rosie, The name on the birth cert is Elspet Third. Illiterate as no signature only 'X'.Occupation Farm Servent. Hope this helps. David


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Re: Peter Johnston or Johstone
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 05 July 20 09:31 BST (UK) »
They also have a copy of the 1911 census Peter Johnstone age 40 farm servant horseman same occupation as the 1901 census .None of his family mentioned on the 1901 census are there just the ones mentioned in reply 7

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Re: Peter Johnston or Johstone
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 05 July 20 09:56 BST (UK) »
 ruthhelen posted that the older children were missing from the 1911 index  if it is the same family in Moneymusk

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Re: Peter Johnston or Johstone
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 05 July 20 10:25 BST (UK) »
Yes that's the same family

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Re: Peter Johnston or Johstone
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 05 July 20 10:26 BST (UK) »
ruthhelen posted that the older children were missing from the 1911 index  if it is the same family in Moneymusk
Nothing remarkable about that.

The youngest child listed in 1901 was 5, so he would have been 15 by the 1911 census - quite old enough to be working away from home, living in a bothy on his employers' farm with the other unmarried male farm servants.
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Re: Peter Johnston or Johstone
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 05 July 20 10:42 BST (UK) »
David has sent me a copy of the marriage certificate. It's quite clear enough for me to transcribe.

1902, on the seventh  day of November at Star House, Parish of Kemnay, after Banns According to the Forms of the Church of Scotland.

(signed) Peter Johnston, 34, Farm Servant (Widower), Kirktown, Kinellar, [parents] Peter Johnston, Farm servant (deceased), Elsie Davidson M S Third.

(signed) Jane Cruickshank, 28, Domestic Servamt (Spinster), Star House, Kemnay, [parents] George Cruickshank, Sett-maker, Mary Cruickshank M S Christie.

(signed) A Hood Smith, Minister of Kemnay
(signed) Barbara R? Cruickshank, witness; John Mair, witness.

[Registered] 1902, November eighth at Kemnay, H Whyte, Registrar.


M S is the standard abbreviation for Maiden Surname.

I haven't found a marriage of Elsie Third to a Mr Davidson, or a death of Elsie Third or Davidson.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.