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Young Woman’s Home, Detroit.
« on: Saturday 04 July 20 16:48 BST (UK) »
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015071390317&view=1up&seq=1

In November 1906 Minnie  Rosier landed in Detroit, Michigan,  she was 23,  She was travelling from Toronto, and had paid for the voyage herself ,  her destination was the Young Woman’s Home, 79 Elizabeth Street , Detroit, Michigan.
Would this be the same place. Why would she have gone there.
She states she has never been in the US before.

In the same month she is on another passenger list travelling to Halifax so didn`t stop long.


 

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Re: Young Woman’s Home, Detroit.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 July 20 17:01 BST (UK) »
I haven't found either of those arrivals yet, or I might be able to answer my own question, but are you sure the Halifax arrival didn't come first?

On, 20 April 1910, Minnie Rosier arrived in Detroit, she said she had arrived in Canada on November 19, 1906 at Halifax. This time she is headed to the YWCA in Detroit at 79 Elizabeth St West
contact in Canada: her father Robert Rosier, 314 Mutchmore St, Ottawa

Is that her?

As to why she went to the YWCA and the other organization, my guess is she didn't know anyone in the US but you needed a destination when you entered the country.
I didn't know the authorities would accept something like the "Y" as a destination, but looks like they did.

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Re: Young Woman’s Home, Detroit.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 July 20 17:07 BST (UK) »
You could stay there for pennies a night and it was safe.  Maybe in town looking for friends/family/job or just there on vacation.

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Re: Young Woman’s Home, Detroit.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 July 20 17:08 BST (UK) »
a trip home in 1913

Incoming UK passengers
Liverpool, SS Canada, arrived 28 May 1913 from Montreal
Minnie Rosier, age 25, no occupation
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Arriving 31 August 1913 at Quebec from Liverpool
SS Canada
stamped "Retd Canadian"
Minnie Rosier, age 25, had been in Canada before, in Ottawa for 7 years, born in England, headed for Ottawa, "a tourist", religion: Church of England,



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Re: Young Woman’s Home, Detroit.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 July 20 17:22 BST (UK) »
Is this her?
Left Liverpool on 10 November 1906, arrived 21 November 1906 at Portland, Maine, SS Dominion

Minnie Rosier, 23, born in Liverpool

going to a friend Mrs Frances F Purdy, 41 Drummond St, Montreal. There were 5 young women, including Minnie, headed to the same "friend"
Mrs Purdy had paid the passage for all of them, and they all were carrying $5 each. occupation of all was "domestic"
other names:

Marion Roth, 25, born in Switzerland, last residence: London
Jessie Sinclair, 25, born in Scotland, last residence: Inverness
Eva Brooks, 25, b in England, last residence: London
Ina Miller, 26, b in England, last residence: Kingston on Thames

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Technically the boat might have put in at Halifax, making that her first arrival in Canada. :) I don't know.

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If this is her, then maybe Mrs Purdy, giving her the benefit of the doubt, was running a placement agency for domestic servants in Montreal. Minnie later quits or gets out on her own somehow and heads for Detroit. - The part that doesn't fit is having a father in Ottawa in 1910. Had he arrived in Canada between Nov 1906 and Apr 1910?

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I'd like to know more about Mrs Purdy, if that were my ancestor or collateral ancestor.

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Re: Young Woman’s Home, Detroit.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 July 20 17:24 BST (UK) »
Do you have an exact date of birth?
Is this her?
U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name:    Minnie Rozier
Social Security Number:    xxx xx xxxx
Birth Date:    4 Jan 1886
Issue Year:    Before 1951
Issue State:    Michigan
Last Residence:    48208, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, USA
Death Date:    Apr 1976

If so, her last SS Check went to that postal zip code in Detroit.

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Did she lie about her age when coming to Canada the first time? Did she have to be 21+ to work for Mrs P.?  She was the youngest of the 5 ladies.
Just questions, trying to make it all fit. All the other manifests say she was born 1886.

Edited again
ancestry.com transcribes the lady's name as Kirby, not Purdy. They might be right.

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Re: Young Woman’s Home, Detroit.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 July 20 17:41 BST (UK) »
Do you have an exact date of birth?
Is this her?
U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name:    Minnie Rozier
Social Security Number:    xxx xx xxxx
Birth Date:    4 Jan 1886
Issue Year:    Before 1951
Issue State:    Michigan
Last Residence:    48208, Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, USA
Death Date:    Apr 1976

If so, her last SS Check went to that postal zip code in Detroit.

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edited to add:
Did she lie about her age when coming to Canada the first time? Did she have to be 21+ to work for Mrs P.?  She was the youngest of the 5 ladies.
Just questions, trying to make it all fit. All the other manifests say she was born 1886.

Edited again
ancestry.com transcribes the lady's name as Kirby, not Purdy. They might be right.

Baptism: 14 Nov 1887 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Minnie Rosier - [Child] of (John) Robert Rosier  Born: 22 Jan 1887

 I  found most of the entries for her have the wrong age. her father went to Canada with his second wife and lived there for many years
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Re: Young Woman’s Home, Detroit.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 July 20 17:48 BST (UK) »
Parents on 1921 census 292 Harry St Renfrew.

John Robert Rosier 71 born England. Imm 1907.
Annie Rosier   63 born England. Imm 1907.

Both appear on a 1920 Canadian Passenger List - 5 June 1920 on the Canada - John 70 years - plasterer - returning Canadians - destination Ottawa. Ann 68 years also travelling.

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 July 20 17:50 BST (UK) »
The Ottawa Citizen
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
12 Mar 1942, Thu    Page 24

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/54702692/obituary-for-john-robert-rosier-aged/

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