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Re: Tracing Evans and Davies family around Pontypridd Wales Circa 1906
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 09 July 20 17:31 BST (UK) »
sorry, to sound like a broken record, but that's why you need that 1871 marriage record to be sure.

1881 age = 38
1891 age = 50

You said you were asking for help to discover how to go back, document each stage and get marriage certificates.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Tracing Evans and Davies family around Pontypridd Wales Circa 1906
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 09 July 20 17:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you, I will have to do just that to be certain.  You have been a great help and also taught me how to search so thanks for that too, I will get back to you if I have more information.

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Re: Tracing Evans and Davies family around Pontypridd Wales Circa 1906
« Reply #29 on: Friday 24 July 20 20:10 BST (UK) »
Hey folks, you have been great, but now I have another quandry!!!
Edward Davies  born according to 1881 census in 1878 Pontiprydd, Wales – he was 3 George was 5 so that’s not helpful!   
On his marriage cert Edward said he was  3 years older born in 1875. I thought it was because his wife Elizabeth Ann Evans was older and a widow with children. He married her in 1906 at Pontiprydd, we have that cert.
Now on his death cert which we have just received it states age of 58 in 1933 which does tie in with the marriage certificate . Making his birth year 1875.
There are 2 births in 1875 and 3 births in 1878, the only thing I think I can do is apply for them one at a time until I find the right one but thats getting very expensive if you can check it out for me on line? I only have a few days left on FindMyPast and I can't find the birth!!
Can you see the birth certificate for parents?
His parents were William and Martha Davies  of 31 Miskin Road, Ystradyfodwg, Glamorganshire:
Tonypandy is in the district of Pontypridd in 1906 but on the death certificate in 1900 it is the sub district of Ystradyfodwy , district Pontypridd, and  Caerau is in the district of Bridgend, sub district  of  Maesteg – confusing or what?
Please help if you can as your methods far exceed mine on finding the answers.
Much obliged if you are reading this again. Maz ???


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Re: Tracing Evans and Davies family around Pontypridd Wales Circa 1906
« Reply #30 on: Friday 24 July 20 21:02 BST (UK) »
Does the marriage certificate confirm that William is his father? Do the occupations match the census entries? Do the names of the witnesses help?

Whose death was recorded in 1900 in Ystradyfodwg? checked back, Elizabeth's first husband

Pontypridd registration district had several subdistricts and there were changes over time.

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/pontypridd.html

and Bridgend had these subdistricts

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/bridgend.html

births registered at Pontypridd for Edward Davies
june qtr 1874 vol 11a pg 244 mmn Evans
march qtr 1875 vol 11a pg 423 mmn Morgan
sept qtr 1875 vol 11a pg 355 mmn Edmunds
sept qtr 1875 vol 11a pg 357 mmn Morgan
march qtr 1878 vol 11a pg 344 mmn Hatton
june qtr 1878 vol 11a pg 410 mmn Williams  - same mmn as that for George & Esther
sept qtr 1878 vol 11a pg 420 mmn Edwards

You can check mmn on the gro index, you need to register, but free to use.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Tracing Evans and Davies family around Pontypridd Wales Circa 1906
« Reply #31 on: Friday 24 July 20 21:26 BST (UK) »
Oh thank you so much that is a big help, and yes the fathers name on marriage cert is William.
The other siblings are definitely Esther and George, then Edward and Richard followed, so I guess that is the cert we should send for.
 You made it look so easy!!!! After weeks of trolling the pages! Thank you.

Would you believe he was a war hero and yet none of his records show his age!
Why on earth did they forget their ages?? All our research is confused by their illiteracy, so sad.

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Re: Tracing Evans and Davies family around Pontypridd Wales Circa 1906
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 25 July 20 20:37 BST (UK) »
not illiteracy, age just wasn't so important. No need to use date of birth to identify yourself.  Adult birthdays weren't celebrated as they are now.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Tracing Evans and Davies family around Pontypridd Wales Circa 1906
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 25 July 20 20:47 BST (UK) »
IS THERE ANY WAY TO VIEW THE BIRTH CERT WITHOUT ORDERING IT?

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Re: Tracing Evans and Davies family around Pontypridd Wales Circa 1906
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 25 July 20 20:51 BST (UK) »
no.

you may be able to check some details by asking the local registrars but they would probably expect you to buy it if the details matched.

Cheapest way to buy is getting a pdf from the GRO.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Tracing Evans and Davies family around Pontypridd Wales Circa 1906
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 25 July 20 21:04 BST (UK) »
Okay, thanks very much.
Costly business this family history!!