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Charles White b 1828 Dartmouth NS
« on: Sunday 05 July 20 16:10 BST (UK) »
I am looking for information/death/descendants of Charles White b 1828 in Dartmouth NS, Canada. Son of Michael White [1790 Co Kilkenny, Ireland - 1847 Halifax NS] & Mary Drea/Dray [born ? - 1838-44]. Charles was a brother to my g g grandmother Joanna [Anne] Holland née White [1833 - ?]. Eventually I am hoping to gain information about their mother Mary Drea/Dray.

1850 US census in Black Rock, NY
A Charles White labourer aged 19 born NS is with a Thomas Dray aged 30 b Ireland & family on : 1850; Census Place: Black Rock, Erie, New York; Roll: 500; Page:  253A and I feel confident that this is 'my' Charles. Thomas & his wife Catherine Mooney had children Edward, Daniel, Catherine, Thomas, William, Margaret, Johanna, James - all similar name to Mary Dray's children. I wondered if Mary & this Thomas were siblings or cousins? Mary died between 1838 [on Halifax census] & 1844 [Michael White's remarriage]. It looks as though Charles went to live with maternal uncle/cousin Thomas after his mother died/father remarried. Thomas & Catherine were married 17 May 1846 in New Brunswick, their first child was born there but subsequent children in USA.

Charles White married a Mary J Colman, had Alpheus C in 1870 among other children. [as stated on 1900 census.

1900 census Census Place: Hempstead, Nassau, New York; Page: 14; Enumeration District: 0700 aged 70 [transcribed on ancestry as 30], Mary aged 68, Agustus C [=Alpheus] aged 30, married 45 yrs 4 children 3 alive.
also states b Jul 1829 NY? [which is not right but transcribed as Nova Scotia on ancestry] father born in Ireland, mother Connecticut**, Mary aged 68 b NY parents born Germany, Agustus [Alpheus] aged 30 b NY parents NY mech engineer, Charles & Mary married 45 yrs 4 children 3 alive; boarding with Payne family.

I don't have any other records for Charles, either censuses or marriage. I wondered if any of their descendants might see this post & have delved further back for Charles' parents.

**So could Mary Dray have been born in Connecticut???

Thanks for any help.

Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Charles White b 1828 Dartmouth NS
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 July 20 16:43 BST (UK) »
Don't know if these will help  ??? Death Notice for Edward J Dray (son of Thomas and Catherine)

Buffalo Evening News
Buffalo, New York
24 Aug 1895, Sat    Page 25

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/54758516/edward-j-dray-24-august-1895/

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Re: Charles White b 1828 Dartmouth NS
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 July 20 16:53 BST (UK) »
Obit  Catherine Dray

The Buffalo Times
Buffalo, New York
16 Dec 1913, Tue    Page 1

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/54759119/obituary-for-catherine-drat/

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Re: Charles White b 1828 Dartmouth NS
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 July 20 16:55 BST (UK) »
Obit Daniel P Dray

The Buffalo Times
Buffalo, New York
12 Oct 1912, Sat    Page 1

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/54759264/obituary-for-daniel-p-dray/

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Re: Charles White b 1828 Dartmouth NS
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 July 20 17:05 BST (UK) »
Obit James R Dray

The Buffalo Times
Buffalo, New York
21 Dec 1913, Sun    Page 43

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/54759808/obituary-for-james-r-drat/

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Re: Charles White b 1828 Dartmouth NS
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 July 20 17:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you for those, Sandra. Shame none of them mentioned an 'Uncle Charles'  :( but their families will be worth following up in case any of their descendants know about these deceased's grandfather Thomas' origins.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Charles White b 1828 Dartmouth NS
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 July 20 17:22 BST (UK) »
Dray Family

 Buffalo Evening News
Buffalo, New York
23 Dec 1913, Tue  •  Page 11

Deaths: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34000321/buffalo-evening-news/

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Re: Charles White b 1828 Dartmouth NS
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 July 20 17:26 BST (UK) »
About Catherine Dray

 Catholic Union and Times
Buffalo, New York
25 Dec 1913, Thu  •  Page 5

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34745386/catherine-dray/

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Re: Charles White b 1828 Dartmouth NS
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 July 20 17:35 BST (UK) »
What a tragic combination of events!!

Thank you for posting.
Seeking: baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 said to be nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON