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Re: Britol General Hospital - Guinea Road
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 09:26 BST (UK) »

I have emailed the auction house and, as I expected, they will not release any details. Thats standard practice but it was a family member who sold the MBE.

I also tried to find a death record. Of course, she could have married and be there under a different name but I have a feeling she didn't. She left England in 1919 for Hong Kong and perhaps never returned but that means the bit about Guys Hospital in the late 1920s is also wrong........
I lived in Ardwick, Manchester in the early 1960s as a small child and much travelling of the world has now led me to want to know more about my roots. Carter, Beckwith, Connolly, Heron and Kelly are all names that form part of my family tree.

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Re: Britol General Hospital - Guinea Road
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 09:46 BST (UK) »
Thought about trying staff records for Guy's?

Link to the Nat. Arch. which shows you where they can be found.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N13946888
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Britol General Hospital - Guinea Road
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 09:51 BST (UK) »

Thanks,

That's my next move. I understand that there are RCN records as well. Might answer the question about where she was in the 1920s.

Still not sure about the MBE. I have researched quite a few honours winners and always found the official entry. If not the London Gazette, then some other notice.

I lived in Ardwick, Manchester in the early 1960s as a small child and much travelling of the world has now led me to want to know more about my roots. Carter, Beckwith, Connolly, Heron and Kelly are all names that form part of my family tree.

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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 10:01 BST (UK) »
I see someone has a tree for Dora on the Family Search website

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/97T3-MW1

The person lives in Utah and you can send a message if you click on the name.  Updated in June 2020.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Britol General Hospital - Guinea Road
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 11:09 BST (UK) »

Thanks again.

Its worth a try......
I lived in Ardwick, Manchester in the early 1960s as a small child and much travelling of the world has now led me to want to know more about my roots. Carter, Beckwith, Connolly, Heron and Kelly are all names that form part of my family tree.

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Re: Britol General Hospital - Guinea Road
« Reply #23 on: Monday 04 October 21 13:13 BST (UK) »
Firstly my interest. Dora Lund was married to John Muir Bathgate, he was a brother to Richard Ged Muir Bathgate. RGMB is my maternal Grandfather. Dorothy/Dora was born on the 20th April 1887 at Holme, Westmoreland, married JMB on the 7th June 1920 in Hongkong, she died on the 23rd May 1956 at Gullane, East Lothian. They had no children. Have yet to find the death date for JMB but it was after DB. The announcement from The Straits Times 7 June 1920 "The marriage is announced in Hongkong of Mr. John Muir Bathgate, planter, of Batu Tiga, Selangor,and Miss Dora Lund nursing sister in the Government Civil Hospital, Hongkong." Interestingly or strangely on DB's death cert JMB's middle name has changed to McNeil, why?

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« Reply #24 on: Monday 04 October 21 14:20 BST (UK) »
For what it is worth someone on a family search tree has a death year of about 1960 for John.  There is a death registered:-

Deaths Sep 1960   
BATHGATE    John    80    Southampton    6b   553

This gives a birth year of 1880 so near enough.

There is a probate record for a John Bathgate:-

BATHGATE John of 18 Hawkeswood Road Bitterne Manor Southampton died 9 August 1960 at Royal South Hants Hospital Southampton.  Probate Winchester 20 September to William Kenneth Bathgate wholesale buyer.  Effects £2653 10s 11d.

Does the name Willliam mean anything to you?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Britol General Hospital - Guinea Road
« Reply #25 on: Monday 04 October 21 15:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies. I had forgotten about this thread.

Over the past 12 months I had unearthed the marriage in Hong Kong and the death in Scotland. Funnily enough, one or two of the questions that prompted me to post still have not been resolved, namely:
1. The elusive MBE record. I now believe that Dora did not receive such an award and that it became part of a family tale. There is just nothing to substantiate this claim.
2. The story that she nursed the King at Guys Hospital in the 1930s. Again, there is no evidence to support this but I will continue to delve now that things are opening up again.
Paul
I lived in Ardwick, Manchester in the early 1960s as a small child and much travelling of the world has now led me to want to know more about my roots. Carter, Beckwith, Connolly, Heron and Kelly are all names that form part of my family tree.