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Offline Ladyhawk

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Re: Emma Pottle born 1833 in Hampshire England
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 July 20 11:46 BST (UK) »
I would appreciate any assistance in finding official documents or more information on
Emma Pottle please.

Birth according to the 1881 Wales Census, 1901 Wales Census in addition to the English and Wales Death Index 1754-1921 is

1 May 1833 in Hawes, Lymington, Hampshire, England

Her marriage was on 2 August 1853 in St Giles without Cripplegate to

Davis Thomas John


Age 18 — Birth of Son David Charles Johns (1851–1916)


Is this the marriage entry on FreeBMD  - no middle name

Sep 1853   
JOHN    David        E London    1c   67    
Pottle    Emma    E London    1c   67   
ULYATE    Catherine        E London    1c   67    
UPTON    James        E london    1c   67

David & Emma didn't marry until 1853

I can't find a Sept qtr. 1851 birth on GRO indexes for a 
David Charles JOHN born 1851 with mmn POTTLE or a
David Charles POTTLE with mmn blank
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Re: Emma Pottle born 1833 in Hampshire England
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 July 20 12:24 BST (UK) »
There is a 25 year old Elizabeth Pottle in Lymington 1841 Census


Reference number for 1841 census HO107 Piece 393 Folio 106 Page 12

If that is Emma's mother where is Emma Pottle born c 1833 in 1841  ???

I wonder if this might be Elizabeth's baptism from Hampshire baptisms transcription only

Elizabeth  POTTLE
Baptism 26 May 1811
Parents John & Sarah
Parish   LYMINGTON Hampshire
Notes   bn 25 Apr

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Re: Emma Pottle born 1833 in Hampshire England
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 July 20 12:39 BST (UK) »

Age 83 — Death of Son David Charles Johns(1851–1916)
31 December 1916 • Geeveston, Tasmania, Australia


Perhaps someone who has access to Australian records might be able to help further here's a transcription for 1916 Electoral Rolls

David Charles Johns
Occupation   Labourer
Address   Geeveston District   Franklin
Sub-district   Esperance
Number   948
State   Tasmania
Country   Australia

Possible marriage - no father's name given

David Johns Age 24 (1851), labourer
Marriage 30 Aug 1875 Oatlands Tasmania
Spouse Margaret Smith
both witnesses had surname Smith
Registration number   590
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Re: Emma Pottle born 1833 in Hampshire England
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 July 20 14:35 BST (UK) »
Emma's father is given as John Pottle, Lawyer, when she married which is clearly a fabrication.

However, the witnesses are Joseph Monk and Elizabeth Monk (her mark)

So, as posted by trish1120, her mother was Elizabeth Monk (nee Pottle) which was confirmed by Emma's baptism.

Cannot find a marriage between Elizabeth and Joseph Monk though.


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Re: Emma Pottle born 1833 in Hampshire England
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 July 20 14:49 BST (UK) »

Age 78 — Death of Husband David Thomas JOHN (1830–1912)
Mar 1912 • Glamorgan, Monmouthshire, Wales


From family search Link - 1911 census Emma John born Lyminton is a widow
Her husband David must have died before 1911

1901 census David John age was 71 born c 1830 Dyffryn - this might be a possible death entry

Jun 1909   Cardiff 11a 219
JOHN   David age 80 (bn 1829)

pmjohns - The information you have posted re: Emma Pottle born Lymington is this from a family tree?

Emma's father is given as John Pottle, Lawyer, when she married which is clearly a fabrication.

However, the witnesses are Joseph Monk and Elizabeth Monk (her mark)

So, as posted by trish1120, her mother was Elizabeth Monk (nee Pottle) which was confirmed by Emma's baptism.

Cannot find a marriage between Elizabeth and Joseph Monk though.


If I have posted the correct baptism for Elizabeth Pottle - John/Sarah (see reply 10) - might Emma have used her grandfather's name  ???
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Re: Emma Pottle born 1833 in Hampshire England
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 07 July 20 14:55 BST (UK) »
Just for information OP has similar post on Emmas husband David John

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=834008.
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Re: Emma Pottle born 1833 in Hampshire England
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 07 July 20 14:59 BST (UK) »
Just for information OP has similar post on Emmas husband David John

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=834008.

Thank you Rosie 

I certainly have duplicated all the census info. you have already given on the other thread
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