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Re: Finding family in France and Belgium
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 12 July 20 13:36 BST (UK) »
You did not answer about the girl called Avril.

What kind of school teacher was Isabelle ? institutrice ? professeur ? it is important in France in order to find a  file somewhere? and to find where she worked and might have given birth to a child.

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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 12 July 20 14:26 BST (UK) »
Good afternoon. Apologies.  No child called Avril to my knowledge.  Marguerite birth was April 9th..  and we know nothing about  her at all.  Completely off the radar.

As to Isabelle the teacher.... no idea at the moment at to what age she taught or where.  I have a vague thought it may have been in Cannes. After the Divorce from Raymond Martin in 1948, does she automatically revert to her maiden name?..

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« Reply #20 on: Monday 13 July 20 11:45 BST (UK) »
There is no rule ,she may have kept her husband's name or not , but in both cases she will be called Simon ( her maiden name) on the official papers .

If she had a degree in school teaching she'll have a file in the archives of Education Nationale , but they aren't on line.


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« Reply #21 on: Monday 13 July 20 13:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks Joger.  My brother is in Belgium and I have  a friend in Brussels who is a researcher... so may I can get them to make some enquiries.

Thank you for your time.  Is your area of expertise Europe?  or world wide?  I still have  areas of research ,so was wondering if I ask here , or start a new thread.

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Re: Finding family in France and Belgium
« Reply #22 on: Monday 13 July 20 17:31 BST (UK) »
I am no expert at all but I can help in France , being french.


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Re: Finding family in France and Belgium
« Reply #23 on: Monday 13 July 20 17:55 BST (UK) »
The,ks to lean :
Archives Seine-Saint-Denis    -   Roger Bernard Louis Simon with mother and sister Isabelle in Montreuil, Seine-Saint-Denis, France
census Montreuil 1931  https://archives.seinesaintdenis.fr/ark:/naan/a011552558619ubVL2F/c23d13f8f8    image 229 van 634   


in 1931 in Montreuil
Leonie Adolphine lives with Roger Bertrand  , a mechanic (employer : Pernod), and Isabelle Bertha, profession : typist.
The 3 of them said they were English.

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« Reply #24 on: Monday 13 July 20 18:04 BST (UK) »
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voters Montreuil 1933  https://en.geneanet.org/archives/registres/view/300730/28?idcollection=300730&legacy_script=%2Farchives%2Fregistres%2Fview%2Findex.php&page=28




Women could not vote in France in 1933, Roger Simon is on the electoral roll, which must mean that he became french.

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Re: Finding family in France and Belgium
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 13:27 BST (UK) »
Roger has been naturalized french on the 11th of Feb 1932 , decree published 10 days later ,
I'm waiting for an answer for the sisters

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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 14 July 20 13:30 BST (UK) »
Leonie is said to be with no occupation , was she living with the means of her children only or was she receiving a war widow 's pension ? (to be searched in Belgium)