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Tasmania Lookup Please - Richard LOVELL
« on: Wednesday 08 July 20 19:01 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone
Several trees on A*y have a birthdate of Richard as 3 October 1870 in Bakers Creek, Tasmania with no sources provided.  His parents were, I believe, John Isaac Lovell and Sarah Ann Bell.

The Australia Cemetery Index gives his age as 77 when he died in 1939, thus a birthdate of 1862.

I have information on his spouse and children, but the birthdate is elusive.  The family for years resided in Victoria, Huon.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

TIA
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Re: Tasmania Lookup Please - Richard LOVELL
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 19:46 BST (UK) »
I can't see a registered birth for that date for parents John Isaac Lovell and Sarah Ann Bell, or for Benjamin Lovell and Mary Bell (who I guess are related, as Benjamin is a witness to John and Sarah's marriage)

Many of the births are registered without given names

John and Sarah, marriage and children
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=lovell&qu=bell&qu=sarah&st=PA

Benjamin and Mary, marriage and children
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=lovell&qu=bell&qu=mary&st=PA

I'll check at the archives if there's a baptism record for Richard

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ADD - this looks likely to be Richard's marriage aged 22y in 1891, so born around 1869
https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD37-1-50p187j2k

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Re: Tasmania Lookup Please - Richard LOVELL
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 July 20 22:19 BST (UK) »
Thank you for those, Matthew. I have hunted quite a bit on the Tasmania
library website you gave me and have been able to locate a lot of information. It is just Richard who is missing at the moment and he is my familial link to the Lovell family.
Thank you for checking.
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Re: Tasmania Lookup Please - Richard LOVELL
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 July 20 01:57 BST (UK) »
Looking at Tasmania Names Index
inctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=lovell&qu=bell&qu=sarah&st=PA#

there are several entries for chn (names unrecorded) for John Lovell and Sarah Bell and this one at the link above is a male b 1871 which could be useful?
HUME: Fermanagh, Donegal,Sligo,Australia
PASFIELD: Essex, London
SHAW/STANLEY: Co Waterford,Ireland, Australia


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Re: Tasmania Lookup Please - Richard LOVELL
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 July 20 02:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Matthew
Yes, I saw that one, male born in April.
Will keep it under "possible" for the future.
Your help is much appreciated.
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Antrobus, Somerset/Glouster
Skelton, Heslington, Yorkshire
James, Norfolk, and London
Delasalle, London area
Gravett/Grevet, Surrey
Also searching the above in Australia

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Re: Tasmania Lookup Please - Richard LOVELL
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 July 20 03:52 BST (UK) »
^ I think you mean shume, not me :)


From Church of England baptisms, St Johns, Franklin. TAHO NS876 microfilm Z2379

Richard LOVELL
Born 3 Oct 1870
Baptised 23 Nov 1870
Parents John Isaac (sawyer) and Sarah, Lucas's saw-mill, Victoria [early name for Huon]

Keep in mind that there were several other Lovell families in the area in the baptism records at the same time, and that the church denominations changed for baptisms within the same family, so if this Richard Lovell doesn't fit, there may have been others

On a side note, the obituary for John Isaac makes interesting reading
1924 'Hardy Old Huonite', Huon Times (Franklin, Tas. : 1910 - 1933), 4 June, p. 2. , viewed 09 Jul 2020, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article136033799

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Re: Tasmania Lookup Please - Richard LOVELL
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 July 20 03:55 BST (UK) »
The Australia Cemetery Index gives his age as 77 when he died in 1939, thus a birthdate of 1862.

His death notice says he was in his 73rd year in August 1939.  I don't know where the 'Edith' comes from, wasn't his second wife Ann Eden?

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/25602354

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/25878313

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Re: Tasmania Lookup Please - Richard LOVELL
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 July 20 04:01 BST (UK) »
Richard LOVELL
Born 3 Oct 1870

This male child was born 17 Apr 1871 which is only 6 months after Richard's supposed date of birth.

https://stors.tas.gov.au/RGD33-1-49p457j2k

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Re: Tasmania Lookup Please - Richard LOVELL
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 July 20 04:44 BST (UK) »
Some more baptisms found while searching that may be of use with working out dates

Mary Elizabeth LOVELL
Born 25 Dec 1864
Bapt 24 Dec 1865
Parents John (farmer) and Sarah, Franklin

Ellen Rebecca LOVELL
Born 4 May 1869
Bapt 8 Dec 1869
Parents John (labourer) and Sarah Ann, Victoria

John Isaac LOVELL
Born 17 March 1871
Bapt 24 Sept 1871 (Congregational church, Franklin)
Parents John Isaac Lovell and Sarah Ann Bell, Franklin

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