Author Topic: Looking for more McCulloch info from Glenwhirry, Co Antrim  (Read 1510 times)

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Re: Looking for more McCulloch info from Glenwhirry, Co Antrim
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 July 20 14:25 BST (UK) »
From the death certificate of Agnes McCulloch from 1879 list her father as James Beggs (Masson journeyman) and mother as Sarah Beggs (nee Elliot)

I noticed the following marriage for a George McCullough and Mary Beaty that took place about 10 months before the McCullough-Beggs marriage, same church, same minister, same residence (Kinnegalliagh in Glenwhirry Civil Parish), and a Hugh McCullough was one of the witnesses, however the groom's father was recorded as Samuel (or Daniel?) McCullough, not William, so I don't know how he ties in: 
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1858/09543/5459568.pdf

The only McCullough in Kinnegalliagh in Griffith's Valuation was a George McCullagh (print date 1862).  The only McCullough in that townland in the 1901 Ireland census was James McCullagh, Kinnegalliagh was also his address when he married Ellen Jane Hamilton in 1870, however his father was recorded as Robert, so again, I don't know how he ties in, if at all, to Hugh (son of William) or George (son of Samuel/Daniel):
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Glenwherry/Kinnegallagh/939349/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11397/8185154.pdf

On the Beggs side, while there are a couple of them in Kinnegalliagh in Griffith's Valuation, I couldn't readily make a connection to James Beggs the mason.  The only I thing can offer up is that a couple called James Beggs and Sarah Elliot had a couple of children baptised in Ballyclug Church of Ireland parish - Andrew baptised on 27 August 1843 (born 1840) and Thomas baptised on the same day (born 1843) - the address was Cross (which is not far west of Kinnegalliagh in Ballyclug Civil Parish) and James' occupation was recorded as a mason.   

A 74 year old Sarah Beggs died in Cross in 1882, she was described as the 'Wife of James Beggs a Stonemason':
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06405/4839402.pdf

I think the following may be Andrew Beggs marrying a Rebecca Gaston in 1865, I'm reading the address as Whappstown (in Connor Civil Parish, again in the vicinity) and the marriage took place in the same church as the marriages for Hugh McCullough and George McCullough):
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11558/8251677.pdf

Were James Beggs and Sarah Elliot the parents of Agnes Beggs?  For now I really don't know.

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Re: Looking for more McCulloch info from Glenwhirry, Co Antrim
« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 July 20 16:19 BST (UK) »

... I have found the death certificate for Agnes Ann McCulloch who died in Saltcoats on the 28th of Jan 1879 and lists her parents as James Beggs (Mason, journeyman) and mother Sarah Beggs (nee Elliot)


It's also worth noting that the Thomas Beggs I mentioned at reply #5, ie. the son of James Beggs and Sarah Elliot, went on to marry an Agnes Cain in 1867 in Kilbirnie, about 10 miles northeast of Saltcoats, Ayrshire. I'm reasonably comfortable that it's him,  because both parents' names are correctly mentioned and James' occupation is 'Mason'. A Samuel Beggs was one of the witnesses. I'm also comfortable that Thomas ended up in Seattle, King County, Washington, USA, where he died in 1924, for there's a death record that mentions both parents' names and other (eg. census) records to corroborate the move to the USA.

BTW, here's his grave:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/59583351/thomas-beggs


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Re: Looking for more McCulloch info from Glenwhirry, Co Antrim
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 July 20 16:48 BST (UK) »
Great find and think you are right with this connection - thanks again



... I have found the death certificate for Agnes Ann McCulloch who died in Saltcoats on the 28th of Jan 1879 and lists her parents as James Beggs (Mason, journeyman) and mother Sarah Beggs (nee Elliot)


It's also worth noting that the Thomas Beggs I mentioned at reply #5, ie. the son of James Beggs and Sarah Elliot, went on to marry an Agnes Cain in 1867 in Kilbirnie, about 10 miles northeast of Saltcoats, Ayrshire. I'm reasonably comfortable that it's him,  because both parents' names are correctly mentioned and James' occupation is 'Mason'. A Samuel Beggs was one of the witnesses. I'm also comfortable that Thomas ended up in Seattle, King County, Washington, USA, where he died in 1924, for there's a death record that mentions both parents' names and other (eg. census) records to corroborate the move to the USA.

BTW, here's his grave:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/59583351/thomas-beggs

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Re: Looking for more McCulloch info from Glenwhirry, Co Antrim
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 July 20 18:00 BST (UK) »
Don't worry about spelling of names. We liked to use a variety for the same family here in Ulster but Scotland was the same. It's only in fairly recent times that spelling was consistant, people knew their exact date of birth, etc.

One thing to be cautious is about is assuming that everyone in the same area or even townland are related, especially when the families were in the area for many generations.

Here's and incomplete family tree for the George whose father was William-
George McCullough (c1841) m. (1864) Fanny Stirling
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1866/11517/8235904.pdf
1. Peggy (2 June 1866 Skerrywhirry)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03532/2299902.pdf
? https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10731/5912310.pdf
2. Agnes (22 Apr.1868 Skerrywherry)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03444/2264429.pdf
3. William (25 Mar.1870) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP1M-N57
4. Thomas Stirling (24 Mar.1872 Skerrywhirry) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03251/2191406.pdf (father- herd)
5. David (2 May 1874 Skerrywhirry) m.1 ? ; m.(1900) Lizzie Davidson
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03152/2155977.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10341/5764696.pdf
     a. John McKinnon McCullough (1901 Ballyboley)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01958/1755742.pdf
     b. William McCullough (1905 Skerrywherry)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01765/1694820.pdf
     c. Fanny McCullough (1908 Skerrywherry)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01669/1664529.pdf
     d. Esther McCullough (1910 Ballymullock, Cairncastle)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01586/1638213.pdf
6. George (9 Sept.1878 Skerrywhirry)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02956/2082778.pdf
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!


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Re: Looking for more McCulloch info from Glenwhirry, Co Antrim
« Reply #13 on: Monday 13 July 20 18:02 BST (UK) »
Great, all that was needed was to get the ball rolling.

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Re: Looking for more McCulloch info from Glenwhirry, Co Antrim
« Reply #14 on: Monday 13 July 20 18:16 BST (UK) »
I'll bow out for now, I thought my James Beggs-Sarah Elliott lead was a good possibility, but let's see where the George McCullough - Fanny Stirling lead goes.  :)
 

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Re: Looking for more McCulloch info from Glenwhirry, Co Antrim
« Reply #15 on: Monday 13 July 20 18:41 BST (UK) »
Yes hopefully as there are now a few of us looking at the links so hopefully we can find out more and start piecing it all together. Much appreciated for your advice 

Great, all that was needed was to get the ball rolling.

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Re: Looking for more McCulloch info from Glenwhirry, Co Antrim
« Reply #16 on: Monday 13 July 20 18:43 BST (UK) »
Much appreciated for your help but now we have a few more leads to chase after - thanks again

I'll bow out for now, I thought my James Beggs-Sarah Elliott lead was a good possibility, but let's see where the George McCullough - Fanny Stirling lead goes.  :)
 

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Re: Looking for more McCulloch info from Glenwhirry, Co Antrim
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 26 July 20 14:34 BST (UK) »
This may have been mentioned already, but you can view transcripts of Glenwherry Presbyterian headstones here:

http://www.thebraid.com/genealogy.aspx

One thing to be cautious is about is assuming that everyone in the same area or even townland are related, especially when the families were in the area for many generations.

Yup, this is especially true for Beggs in this area.  I’ve not really researched them directly, but I still have 12 James Beggs on my tree.  I don’t think any of them are James Beggs the mason.