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Joseph GALLAGHER New York in 1930 b. 1887 roots?
« on: Thursday 09 July 20 20:14 BST (UK) »
Joseph GALLAGHER on his marriage certificate to Elizabeth Mably in Reading in 1919 stated he was single, an air mechanic in the Royal Flying Corps and aged 31.  His father was James, a journeyman carpenter.

His Royal Flying Corps record contains scant details but states his date of birth was the 7 May (or very possibly "Mar") 1887.  Royal Flying Corps personnel details were lost in a fire.

He disappeared from the family soon after marriage - though the couple had a daughter. 

For years I have been trying to find out what happened to him.  There were some rumours that he went to Canada.  We do not know his nationality or where he was born.  I can't even find a birth or census record with James as his father.

But I have just found a 1930 census record for a Joseph GALLAGHER aged 43 with wife Laura aged 32 and their children in Grote Street, Buffalo, New York - who seems to be the right age - though Laura's does not make sense when you see the ages they reckon they were when they got married - 21 and 22 ( - unless they both had married other people!).  I can't find a marriage record for them.  That might have given the name and occupation of his father.

What makes me interested in the family in New York is that their children were born in Canada according to the 1930 census.  And Joseph's occupation is a mechanic on aeroplanes.

I know this is a long shot but I am wondering whether anyone else has researched this family.  And can help me find any other details which might confirm the connection - or otherwise - with the Joseph Gallagher I am looking for.

Yes - if this Joseph and Laura did marry, that would make him a bigamist.

Many thanks

 
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Re: Joseph GALLAGHER New York in 1930 b. 1887 roots?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 July 20 20:33 BST (UK) »
I think this is the marriage to Laura :

Joseph Gallagher 32                                  Laura May Robin 22
Residence Mount Hamilton                        Camperville Ontario
Birthplace Guernsey                                 Guernsey
Widower                                                  Spinster
Machinist
Father Patrick                                           Thomas Robin
Mother Prudence Rose                               Ada Torode

22 May 1918 Camperville , Halton

The birth of the daughter Alice on the 1930 census :

Alice Prudence Gallagher born 15 July 1908 at Wentworth
Joseph Patrick Gallagher , machinist , and Edith Mary Vidamore
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Re: Joseph GALLAGHER New York in 1930 b. 1887 roots?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 July 20 20:36 BST (UK) »

But I have just found a 1930 census record for a Joseph GALLAGHER aged 43 with wife Laura aged 32 and their children in Grote Street, Buffalo, New York - who seems to be the right age - though Laura's does not make sense when you see the ages they reckon they were when they got married - 21 and 22 ( - unless they both had married other people!).  I can't find a marriage record for them.  That might have given the name and occupation of his father.

What makes me interested in the family in New York is that their children were born in Canada according to the 1930 census.  And Joseph's occupation is a mechanic on aeroplanes.

I know this is a long shot but I am wondering whether anyone else has researched this family.  And can help me find any other details which might confirm the connection - or otherwise - with the Joseph Gallagher I am looking for.


Border Crossing (wife Laura): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q23H-NP4G

1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7CR-5S8

Someone's tree at Family Search.  Same family members as 1930 census.

Tree: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L6LL-W8W


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Re: Joseph GALLAGHER New York in 1930 b. 1887 roots?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 July 20 20:36 BST (UK) »
1901 Guernsey census :

Patrick Gallagher 66 head
Prudence Gallagher 53 wife
Joseph Gallagher 15 son

RG13; Piece: 5318; Folio: 47; Page: 11
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Re: Joseph GALLAGHER New York in 1930 b. 1887 roots?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 July 20 20:53 BST (UK) »
1911 Canada census

Joseph Gallagher
born Aug 1885 England head , married
immigration year 1905
Edith Gallagher 26 wife
Alice Gallagher 2
1911; Census Place: 15 - Barton, Wentworth, Ontario; Page: 9; Family No: 102

It doesn't seem that this can be your man.

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Re: Joseph GALLAGHER New York in 1930 b. 1887 roots?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 July 20 00:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks for looking this up for me.   

I was hoping to see on Joseph and Laura's marriage info that his father was James.  Now I know this Joseph's father was Patrick, well, he is clearly not who I am looking for.

And the search goes on!

Many thanks again for your quick replies.

I really wish I could find out what happened to him!
Woodmancote:  Hobbs; Davison
Bisley:  Fisher
Eastcombe:  Winstone
Chalford:  Lambert
Newent:  Bowkett
Llangurig: Owen; Jones
Llangurig & Bedlinog: Rees
Llanonn: Williams
Charfield:  Fowler; Selman
Olveston:  Fisher
Batheaston: Fisher
Andover, Hurstbourne, Woodcutt, Shinfield: Farmer & Tanner
Alresford: Sprangle; Hack
Martletwy & Llangwig:  Davies