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Re: Photogaph dating Elizabeth White born 1864 in Hackney
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 11 July 20 17:10 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 July 20 17:14 BST (UK) »
and these are cousins. 
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Re: Photogaph dating Elizabeth White born 1864 in Hackney
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 11 July 20 19:14 BST (UK) »
The photos that Gadget has kindly resized for me are:-
1) Ellen Bysouth born 1904 (my mother in law) as a young lady (not sure how old)
2) Ellen Bysouth with her son at his christening 1942 age 38
3) Ellen Bysouth with her sisters. Ellen is 2nd right at back (not sure when)
4) Ellen Bysouth with a cousin & cousins granddaughter  Ellen age 77
5) Ellen Bysouth's  paternal grandparents . The photo of the lady was taken in 1901 when she would have been age 69

The original post I think is her mother Elizabeth White 1864 - 1908. It is in a photo album & we cannot think it would be anybody else or at the least a very close relation.


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Re: Photogaph dating Elizabeth White born 1864 in Hackney
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 July 20 20:28 BST (UK) »
Are these  the two that you are wondering about? 

Is one the lower one the daughter of the top one?

I don't think they are mother and daughter but  see what others think.

PS - have you got a photo of Ellen's father?
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Re: Photogaph dating Elizabeth White born 1864 in Hackney
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 July 20 21:32 BST (UK) »
That was my original thought that they were mother & daughter.
I will look out a photo of her father & send it to you.

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Re: Photogaph dating Elizabeth White born 1864 in Hackney
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 July 20 22:00 BST (UK) »
I've enlarged and cropped to head and shoulders. I think Ellen might take after her father.

It' a bit spotty!

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Re: Photogaph dating Elizabeth White born 1864 in Hackney
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 11 July 20 23:01 BST (UK) »
I've just been looking at Ellen and her sisters again. Some of them, particularly the one on far left, is more like Elizabeth.

So, I'd hazard a guess that Ellen looks more like her father who, in turn, looks like his mother.
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Re: Photogaph dating Elizabeth White born 1864 in Hackney
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 12 July 20 10:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks, so that ties up one side of the family but I am still none the wiser as to the photo of Elizabeth White (as I have called her).
She could very well be Ellen's mother even if there is no likeness or even possibly her husbands mother who we have no photos of at all.

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Re: Photogaph dating Elizabeth White born 1864 in Hackney
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 12 July 20 10:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks, so that ties up one side of the family but I am still none the wiser as to the photo of Elizabeth White (as I have called her).
She could very well be Ellen's mother even if there is no likeness or even possibly her husbands mother who we have no photos of at all.

Now I'm confused as I thought you said that the man in the photo was Ellen's father - i.e. Elizabeth White's husband.  Are you now saying that you're not sure who Elizabeth is?  If so, how did you get  the photo?

Also, I thought that you said that the couple were Ellen's father's parents  :-\

Surely a bit of genealogical research would help here.
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