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Offline Peter L. Mitchell

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Alfred John Carpenter
« on: Saturday 11 July 20 13:58 BST (UK) »
I am looking for any information about Alfred John Carpenter and his wife, Mary Ann Preston. Here’s what I know about them and their family:

Birth:   1840, Frome, Somerset, England (Mother’s surname Attwood)
Death:   Unknown
Occupation:   Stationer

Spouse:   Mary Ann Preston
Birth:   1842/3 East India, London, England (Possibly arrived August 1854 on Great Britain).
           Mary’s father Peter was a Captain in Third Regiment of Foot, HM Army, East India. Peter
married Frances Strong (mother’s maiden name Carter) in Parish Church, Tiverton,
Devon (circa 1841). Church records show his title as Esquire.
Death:   1879 aged 35 years.

Married:    1869

Children:   Florence May (11 October 1870 - ) Born at Echuca, Australia. Married Francis Muller in
                1912.
           Henry Farquarens (1873 - ) Born at Wodonga, Australia.
           Rosina (1875 - ) Born at Echuca, Australia. Married Abraham Herman in 1901.
           Lily Louisa Isabel (1876 - 1877) Born at Echuca, Australia. Died aged 7 months at Echuca.
           Mabel Adeline (1877 - ) Born at Echuca, Australia. Married Arthur Earnest Shrimpton
                (1899).
           Evelyn Maud (1881 - ) Born at Warragul, Australia.
           Ida (1883 – 1888) Born at Warragul, Australia. Died aged 5 years at Warragul.
           Archibald Stanley (1884 - ) Born at Preston, Australia.
           Alfred John (1887 - 1889) Born at Melbourne, Australia. Died aged one year at Melbourne.
           Frank Henry Crosson (1890 - 1891) Born at Carlton, Australia. Died aged 3 months at
                Carlton.

I believe that there is a French connection further back in the family history.

I’d appreciate any help I can receive on this one.

Thanks,
            Peter


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Re: Alfred John Carpenter
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 July 20 15:02 BST (UK) »
Alfred John Carpenter
Baptism    05 Aug 1840
Freshford, Somerset
Father William
Mother Anne
Father's occupation Carpenter
Residence   Frome
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Re: Alfred John Carpenter
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 July 20 15:17 BST (UK) »
Spouse:   Mary Ann Preston
Birth:   1842/3 East India, London, England (Possibly arrived August 1854 on Great Britain).

Mary’s father Peter was a Captain in Third Regiment of Foot, HM Army, East India.

Peter married Frances Strong (mother’s maiden name Carter) in Parish Church, Tiverton,
Devon (circa 1841). Church records show his title as Esquire.

The only marriage at Tiverton around that time for a Frances (Maria) Strong was in 1839 to a Peter Brown(e)

When Alfred & Mary Ann married what information did it give.  Online trees suggest that Mary Ann was born c1848
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Re: Alfred John Carpenter
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 July 20 16:27 BST (UK) »

Death:   1879 aged 35 years.

Married:    1869

Children:   Florence May (11 October 1870 - ) Born at Echuca, Australia. Married Francis Muller in
                1912.
           Henry Farquarens (1873 - ) Born at Wodonga, Australia.
           Rosina (1875 - ) Born at Echuca, Australia. Married Abraham Herman in 1901.
           Lily Louisa Isabel (1876 - 1877) Born at Echuca, Australia. Died aged 7 months at Echuca.
           Mabel Adeline (1877 - ) Born at Echuca, Australia. Married Arthur Earnest Shrimpton
                (1899).
           Evelyn Maud (1881 - ) Born at Warragul, Australia.
           Ida (1883 – 1888) Born at Warragul, Australia. Died aged 5 years at Warragul.
           Archibald Stanley (1884 - ) Born at Preston, Australia.
           Alfred John (1887 - 1889) Born at Melbourne, Australia. Died aged one year at Melbourne.
           Frank Henry Crosson (1890 - 1891) Born at Carlton, Australia. Died aged 3 months at
                Carlton.

Who died in 1879 age 35, it can't have been Alfred John or Mary Ann as you have them still having children after that date
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Re: Alfred John Carpenter
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 July 20 23:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks Rosie! Late night and I completely mixed up the copy and paste from my records! This is the information I have:

Birth:   1840, Frome, Somerset, England (Mother’s surname Attwood)
Death:   Unknown
Occupation:   Stationer
Spouse:   Mary Ann Preston
Birth:   Circa 1848. Father George Preston; mother Hannah Preston (nee Carter).
Death:   1912 aged 63 years.
Marr:    1869 in Victoria, Australia.
Children:   Florence May (11 October 1870 - ) Born at Echuca. Married Francis Muller in 1912.
           Henry Farquarens (1873 - ) Born at Wodonga.
           Rosina (1875 - ) Born at Echuca. Married Abraham Herman in 1901.
           Lily Louisa Isabel (1876 - 1877) Born at Echuca. Died aged 7 months at Echuca.
           Mabel Adeline (1877 - ) Born at Echuca. Married Arthur Earnest Shrimpton (1899).
           Evelyn Maud (1881 - ) Born at Warragul
           Ida (1883 – 1888) Born at Warragul. Died aged 5 years at Warragul.
           Archibald Stanley (1884 - ) Born at Preston
           Alfred John (1887 - 1889) Born at Melbourne. Died aged one year at Melbourne.
           Frank Henry Crosson (1890 - 1891) Born at Carlton. Died aged 3 months at Carlton.

Thanks again,
                    Peter

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Re: Alfred John Carpenter
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 July 20 01:28 BST (UK) »
Jun 1838 St James Westr. 1 120
PRESTON George
CARTER Hannah Ratchel

PRESTON, GEORGE  THOMAS mmn CARTER 
GRO Reference: 1839  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 434

PRESTON, WILLIAM mmn CARTER 
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in POPLAR UNION  Volume 02  Page 343

PRESTON, HENRY  ARTHUR mmn CARTER 
GRO Reference: 1846  M Quarter in POPLAR UNION  Volume 02  Page 353
Married VIC:
2010/1883 PRESTON Henry Arthur to CHAMBERS Elizabeth Celia
123/1894 PRESTON Hy Arth to BUCHAN Annie Campbell Minchan
Birth: 23586/1869 BUCHAN Annie Campbell parents MARTIN Catherine and BUCHAN Richard MELB
Died VIC:
5939/1887 PRESTON Elizth Celia parents WALKER Elizth and CHAMBERS Jas C'WOOD aged 22
7177/1929 PRESTON Henry Arthur parents Hannah Rachel CARTER and George PRESTON SANDRINGHAM aged 83
11874/1946 PRESTON Annie Campbell father BUCHAN Richard born MELBOURNE EAST died MALVERN EAST aged 76

PRESTON, MARY  ANN mmn CARTER 
GRO Reference: 1848  S Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 458

VIC:

985953/1913 PRESTON Hannah Rachel parents Hannah EVANS and Thos CARTER KEW aged 98

Hannah’s christening: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5RQ-JJ2

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Re: Alfred John Carpenter
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 July 20 01:37 BST (UK) »
Is this your family?

Vic BDM birth
30307/1887 CARPENTER Alfred Ellerslie parents Mary Ann PRESTON / Alfred John
@ MELB

Vic BDM death
7297/1912  CARPENTER Mary Ann  parents  Hannah CARTER / Preston Geo
@ Prn age 63


The Age 27 Apr 1912 p5
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/197367840
CARPENTER.-On the 27th April, Mary, the dearly beloved wife of A. J. CARPENTER, of High-
street, East Kew, and mother of Mrs. F. MINCHIN, Mrs. Lou. HERMAN, Charlie Carpenter, Mrs. A.
SHRIMPTON, Mrs. A. J. HOARE, of Sydney, and Jack, of Trangie, New South Wales.

Kew Cemetery  ( four burials in same plot)
http://www.kewcemetery.com.au/search/FindGrave.php

CARPENTER, Mary Ann                buried  23 Apr 1912  age 63
WRIGHT, Hannah Rachel            buried 13 Sep 1912 age 58
PRESTON, Charles Payne             buried 22 Jan 1937  age 65
HILL-PRESTON, Mary L.               buried 11 Aug 1938 age   0

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Re: Alfred John Carpenter
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 July 20 01:54 BST (UK) »
BDM VIC death
558/1937 PRESTON Charles Payne  parents  Hannah Rachel CARTER /  PRESTON George
born South Yarra   died Port Melbourne  age 65

10561/1912 WRIGHT Hannah Rachel  parents Hannah Rachel CARTER /  Preston Geo
@ Kew  age 58

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Re: Alfred John Carpenter
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 July 20 01:56 BST (UK) »
Also at Kew:
Name: PRESTON, HANNAH RACHEL
Date: 28-May-1913
Age: 98
Grave Location: C/E C 1709
Section Name: Church of England

Other interments in the same grave location - 4

11-Feb-1887   Burial   FENNELL, SARAH ANN   38 ( I can’t see her connection. She was the daughter of COSTELLOE Wm and ARNOLD Keziah, married to FENNELL George)
15-Apr-1902   Burial   PRESTON, GEORGE   87
12-Feb-1903   Burial   PRESTON, ARTHUR HENRY   0 (grandchild, son of Henry Arthur)
24-Dec-1918   Burial   MINCHIN, HUMPHREY PETER ARTHUR   4 (son of Eliz Frances PRESTON - daughter from first marriage of Henry Arthur - and Frederick Charles MINCHIN)

6048/1902 PRESTON Geo father Jno PRESTON Kew aged 87

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