Beatrice Lilian Turner

[Calpe 1704]

There is a nephew - Henry S Turner ,  22 yrs b Ipswich living with them.

Henry S Turner is a son of George Augustus Joseph Turner & wife Mary, being age 2 on the 1861 census, therefore brother of this Beatrice

I am very slowly catching up on all the posts, so please forgive me.
From the quote above, please correct me if i'm wrong.
'brother of this Beatrice'  So this is not Beatrice Lilian Turner born 07-09-1872 in Luton?
So the B.L.Turner who is shown in attendance at the North London Collegiate School is not our B.L.Turner?

[janan]

There is a nephew - Henry S Turner ,  22 yrs b Ipswich living with them.

Henry S Turner is a son of George Augustus Joseph Turner & wife Mary, being age 2 on the 1861 census, therefore brother of this Beatrice

I am very slowly catching up on all the posts, so please forgive me.
From the quote above, please correct me if i'm wrong.
'brother of this Beatrice'  So this is not Beatrice Lilian Turner born 07-09-1872 in Luton?
So the B.L.Turner who is shown in attendance at the North London Collegiate School is not our B.L.Turner?

Hi Calpe
You are correct, she is not your Beatrice
Jan

[Calpe 1704]

Birth Certificate for a Beatrice Lilian Turner arrived today...
Beatrice Lilian Turner, born 07/09/1872.  Father - George Henry Turner
Mother - Emma Ellen Turner, formerly Reed.

Have you an address where the birth took place ?
Also 1939 Register has her birth as 7th July 1872 although looking at the image month could be a 9 rather than a 7?

Thanks John. It is definitely a 1872 birth. As written on certificate - 'Seventh September 1872, London Road, Luton, Beds'.  As can be seen in reply 24.

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It is a shame that both Blanche & Clarence died in 1880 so cannot be used to trace parents on 1881 census. Blanche died June 1880 age 0 & Clarence died Sept 1880 both in St.Pancras RD. Maybe the death index might reveal a more recent (to 1881) address of parents.

Thanks again all.
Clarence H.T.H. Turner born 21/07/1877, died 27/08/1880, aged 3 & 1 month.
Blanche M. Turner born 06/06/1879, died 13/04/1880, 10 months old

[Calpe 1704]

Thanks rosie99 nipping this error in the bud.
Stains! the typo from hell to both Staines residents & their estate agents alike. 
A spelling conflict maybe exists in Hamblin thread entering early as  2008. Beatrice & Henry's eldest son Henry George Hamblins wife Sophie Street.
Looking broadly on BMD for Henry & Beatrices "marriage", both inexpertly & despite myself, Henry jnr & Sophies  marriage index appeared: Hamblin Henry G   Streat Brentford 3a 356a.
I am poor judge to weigh what is/not relevent, but....

Typo errors of the Registrar or that he mis-interpreted the name when it was asked and then spelt it as he thought it was spelt. In another thread my Grand Father's surname was Clare, but the Registrar spelt it as Clear! A nightmare for the researchers.

[Calpe 1704]

In 1851 G.H. Turner age 2 born Langford was Visitor to, I think, his maternal grandmother's family headed by Ann Hare age 62 widow, baker & having 6 of her unmarried children still living there. Back 10 years to 1841 Ann Hare is age 50 a baker, nobody there of an age to be her husband, but she still had 7 children in the household. On Sarah Hare's marriage to John Turner on 24 June 1839 it says her father was Thomas Hare, dead.... a Thomas Hare was buried Henlow on 22 Apr 1839 aged 56. However cannot find marriage of Thomas Hare to Ann in around 1814-1815, based on ages of oldest children in the censuses.   

Meanwhile John & Sarah Turner who married in 1839 are in Langford on 1841 census with 1 year old son William. In 1851 they are still in Langford with 11 year old William, plus Thomas 5 & Elizabeth 9. On 1861 census in Langford, John & Sarah with George age 13, plus 6 other children.

John, just to thank you for all the information you have placed here, i will now add it all to the Power/Clare/Hamblin/Turner (plus others) family tree i have running on Family Tree Maker.

Many thanks too, to all you posters who have gone out of their way to help on this thread.

I feel now that it would be a good idea to filter facts about George Henry Turner, who had married Emma Ellen Reed, but then later was with a lady called Jane.

We now know that Samuel Reed married a Edith Taylor 26/09/1831. But Edith appears to have had 6 children, 5 of whom appear to have their surname as Taylor, and one being Emma Ellen. Was Emma Ellen a Reed or a Taylor by birth? 

[johnP-bedford]

We now know that Samuel Reed married a Edith Taylor 26/09/1831. But Edith appears to have had 6 children, 5 of whom appear to have their surname as Taylor, and one being Emma Ellen. Was Emma Ellen a Reed or a Taylor by birth?

Samuel Reed & Edith Taylor had 6 children on 1851 census, Mary age 15, Anne 13, Samuel 10, Thomas 8, Eliza Ann 4 & Edith 6 months (the first 3 repeat on 1841 census). They are all have surname Reed, however apart from Edith they all have an additional first name of Taylor, this is as per their baptisms & later marriages from parish registers. Father Samuel died in 1855 & on 1861 census widow Edith is with 8 year old daughter Emma who I've not seen with first name Taylor apart from those records from the Beds Archives catalogue. 

Cheerts John 

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Both death certs arrived for Beatrice & Henry, correct ID. I'll post both threads,as they lean on each other. Thank you again heywood for great work.
BEATRICE
Reg Dist. STAINS, 1944 DEATHS sub dept.  STAINS, MIDDLESEX
Where & when 27 Feb 1948, “Thesrall”, London Rd, Stanwell, Stains , Middx. (attach handwritten)
Name: Beatrice Lilian  Hamblin. - Female 71yrs.
Rank/Prof:  of, 12, Fielding Rd, Chiswick W.4. wife of TAXI CAB DRIVER.Cause Stroke.
Informant: W. (Walter “Wally" Hamblin) in atten, Son. 50, Stains Rd, Houslow.
Reg date: 29 Feb 1944.  Signed off:-
HENRY
Reg Dist. WANDSWORTH, 1948 DEATHS sub dist. of Tooting, WANDSWORTH
Where & when: 11 May 1948, Tooting Bec Hospital.
Name: Henry Hamblin. - Male 75yrs.
Rank/Prof:  of 50, Stains Rd. Hounslow Middx.  TAXI CAB DRIVER.
Cause Cardio:  Informant. H. Hamblin. Son. 25 Springwell Road Heston Middx.  Reg date: 30 May 1948.

Just a small correction: -
Beatrice Lilian Turner - died 27-02-1944

[Calpe 1704]

[quote author=johnP-bedford
Samuel Reed & Edith Taylor had 6 children on 1851 census, Mary age 15, Anne 13, Samuel 10, Thomas 8, Eliza Ann 4 & Edith 6 months (the first 3 repeat on 1841 census). They are all have surname Reed, however apart from Edith they all have an additional first name of Taylor, this is as per their baptisms & later marriages from parish registers. Father Samuel died in 1855 & on 1861 census widow Edith is with 8 year old daughter Emma who I've not seen with first name Taylor apart from those records from the Beds Archives catalogue. 
Cheers John [/quote]

Absolutely fantastic information JohnP, though i'm a little puzzled.
You've kindly given the names, ages etc but i'm at a loss about their surnames and having an additional first name of Taylor etc.
So how would their names be written?
It's just i have things clear and then to be able to enter all the information in my Family Tree Maker program.

As for Edith's 8 year old daughter (1861 Census), Emma, (born 1853?) the father is assumed to be Samuel Reed, who passed away in 1855.

You've mentioned that "as per their baptisms & later marriages from parish registers".
Please advise how i would be able to see this information?
With thanks