Beatrice Lilian Turner

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Samuel Reed & Edith Taylor had 6 children on 1851 census, Mary age 15, Anne 13, Samuel 10, Thomas 8, Eliza Ann 4 & Edith 6 months (the first 3 repeat on 1841 census). They are all have surname Reed, however apart from Edith they all have an additional first name of Taylor, this is as per their baptisms & later marriages from parish registers. Father Samuel died in 1855 & on 1861 census widow Edith is with 8 year old daughter Emma who I've not seen with first name Taylor apart from those records from the Beds Archives catalogue. 
Cheers John

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Absolutely fantastic information JohnP, though i'm a little puzzled.
You've kindly given the names, ages etc but i'm at a loss about their surnames and having an additional first name of Taylor etc.
So how would their names be written?
It's just i have things clear and then to be able to enter all the information in my Family Tree Maker program.

As for Edith's 8 year old daughter (1861 Census), Emma, (born 1853?) the father is assumed to be Samuel Reed, who passed away in 1855?

You've mentioned that "as per their baptisms & later marriages from parish registers".
Please advise how i would be able to see this information?
With thanks
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When possible i'd appreciate some advise on the above.
With thanks

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Just wondering where i might find information on these: -

Beatrice Lilian Turner's (born 07 Sep 1872) marriage to Henry Hamblin (born about 1873)?

Beatrice Lilian Turner's daughter - Violet Mabel Ellen Turner, born 18 Jun 1891.
Father not named on her birth certificate.

When did Violet Mabel Ellen Turner officially become a Hamblin?
Would this be registered somewhere?

Thanks in advance

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When did Violet Mabel Ellen Turner officially become a Hamblin?
Would this be registered somewhere?

You can call yourself what you like as long as it is not for fraudulent purposes, it does not have to be changed legally

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Beatrice Lilian Turner's daughter - Violet Mabel Ellen Turner, born 18 Jun 1891.
Father not named on her birth certificate.

When did Violet Mabel Ellen Turner officially become a Hamblin?
Would this be registered somewhere?

Rosie99, indeed 'calling yourself what you like' may well have been the case, but...
On legal documents surely this wouldn't be the case?

[johnP-bedford]

As Violet Mary was her surname Turner or Hamblin on her marriage certificate when she became your grandmother? & does the marriage certificate tell us her father's name? 

While she may be Beatrice's daughter is there any proof that Henry Hamblin was the natural father? as she may have met up with HH after the birth   

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As Violet Mary was her surname Turner or Hamblin on her marriage certificate when she became your grandmother? & does the marriage certificate tell us her father's name? 

While she may be Beatrice's daughter is there any proof that Henry Hamblin was the natural father? as she may have met up with HH after the birth

Thank you for your response.
The problem with my grandmother, was the variation of names ive seen on documents.
But i believe that was cleared up when Richmond Parks obtained her birth certificate.

On Violet Mabel Turner (birth surname) marriage certificate her name is entered as: -
Mary Violet Hamblin.
Father's full name is entered as Henry Hamblin, Taxi driver.

There is no proof yet that Henry was the father.

Violet Mabel married in Dublin, 1920, aged 29.

[rosie99]

Rosie99, indeed 'calling yourself what you like' may well have been the case, but...
On legal documents surely this wouldn't be the case?

Yes it would be the case, she could call herself whatever she liked unless it was for fraudulent purposes. 

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Absolutely fantastic information JohnP, though i'm a little puzzled.
You've kindly given the names, ages etc but i'm at a loss about their surnames and having an additional first name of Taylor etc.
So how would their names be written?
It's just i have things clear and then to be able to enter all the information in my Family Tree Maker program.

You've mentioned that "as per their baptisms & later marriages from parish registers".
Please advise how i would be able to see this information?

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When possible i'd appreciate some advise on the above.
With thanks

Their surname is REED and they have an additional first name of TAYLOR

Mary 1835, Ann 1838, Samuel 1843 & Thomas 1843 were baptised at Biggleswade as Reed in the years quoted with Taylor as additional first name.
Mary was married in 1858 in Biggleswade   
Samuel was married in 1865 in Bigggleswade

Eliza Ann Taylor Reed was baptised in Luton in 1866 & married in Luton in 1868

These are all as the Beds FHS Surnames Index CD, some correlated to entries on FamilySearch
You will need to verify using the Biggleswade & Luton parish registers

Regards John   

 

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From the Beds FHS Biggleswade baptism transcripts (1637-1852), for parents Samuel & Edith:

Baptisms - St Andrew, Biggleswade:
20 May 1832 - Mary Taylor REED; cow leach
26 Jan 1834 - Sarah REED; farrier
22 Nov 1835 - Mary Taylor REED; cow leach
09 Sep 1835 - Ann Taylor REED; cow leach
06 Jun 1841 - Samuel Taylor READ; farrier; privately
04 Jun 1843 - Samuel REED; farrier; born 31 Dec 1840
04 Jun 1843 - Thomas Taylor REED; farrier; born 02 Mar 1843

As John says, the baptisms are recorded under the name REED/READ.


FamilySearch does have images of the register but you have to access the site from certain locations, so not much use from home unfortunately. I don't believe there's any other online source for the images (no doubt John would have already mentioned it if there was).

FamilySearch Catalog:
Parish registers for Biggleswade, 1697-1888
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/87273?availability=Family%20History%20Library