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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 16 July 20 00:43 BST (UK) »
Henry is alive in 1939, is he not?
With an alleged date of birth, that has not been mentioned here?

I promise that I am not claiming that the 1939 Register in any way resembles a census! ;D
Am in enough trouble with that tonight!

Electoral registers?
John
I am unqualified to comment technicly on this site. However I can perhaps add context & some direction within.

Henry & Beatrice remained in their long term home 5, St Peters Grove W.6. 100% up to 1938.
then  lived in our home 12 Fielding Rd Chiswick W.4 for their last few years, my brothers & sisters were infants, (basicly the WW2 years), Bearice had a completly debilatating stroke & died about a year later. Following her death Henry developed progressive dimenitia dangerous liability & just prior to his death required to be removed from our home with infants, while son  George Hamblin living with "us" too at time was dying of TB, he passed about  1943/4,  It's thought having contracted it caring for his younger brother Fredrick Hamblin who died about 2 years before. The brother Harry & wife Sophie nee Street died around late 40"s -1950.
The text on image attached is behind the curve now & a rough guide.

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 16 July 20 03:20 BST (UK) »
Staines, Middlesex January 1944
Beatrice L Hamblin b abt 1873

There is a death in Wandsworth, 1948
Henry Hamlin Born abt 1873

I think I offered that for some reason on the other thread.

Which other thread?
Register of graves, Havelock Cemetery  (or Havelock Norwood?)
Interred together there are
Beatrice Lillian Hamblin, buried 4 March 1944, age 71
Henry Hamblin, buried 15 May 1948, age 76

Grave 52, Section C (B)
Or something like that!
Image is on ancestry.

Oh Yesssss, thats it,  thank you everyone that is our Beatrice & Henry,  absolutly amazing.
Norwood is not S London one, this is Norwood Green on fringes of Southhall. Havelock is an area on the grand Union canal. I have been cycling straight past on the tow path to get to central Southhall . ::)
Norwood GREEN rings a dull bell now, their eldest son Henry jnr."Harry" Hamblin & wife Sophie nee Street possibly  live there around the time of Beatrice's death, they were active in her shared care at the end.

 I suspected they are a possible  association as neither Beartice or Henry Snr had any historical links with Southall at all & being buried there struck me as very odd.
"Harry" & Sophie died a few years later they could well buried there too.
As an aside Henry jnr  "Harry" a WW1 vet, was definatly a cab driver during WW2.

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 16 July 20 08:27 BST (UK) »
Found newspaper clipping on Henry Hamblin from Middlesex Courier 8th Dec 1945

"On the evening of Friday week, Mr Henry Hamblin aged 74 of 12 Fielding Road, Chiswick collapsed in Staines Road, Hounslow and was removed to Hounslow Hospital by ambulance. After rest and treatment he recovered and was handed to the care of his son who resides in the borough"
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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 16 July 20 09:27 BST (UK) »
100% was my uncle Harold Hamblin, a cab driver, in folklore too. Their long term was central/W Hounslow I be able to narrow this down. I am pretty sure he never actualy resided in their home. Place of death could be a quazi secure unit.

With latest knowlege gained, Ist oppotunity I'll, attempt to  find /aquire Henry & Beatrice's death cert asap.
As always,-Thank you .

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 16 July 20 15:07 BST (UK) »
That's great to have their burials. Well done jonw65

Jan
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
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cambridgeshire- bird, carver
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derbyshire- allsop, noon
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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #32 on: Friday 17 July 20 08:20 BST (UK) »
So with his age 76 at burial in May 1948 although GRO death index has age 75, plus him being age 74 in the newspaper report of Dec 1945, plus his birth date on 1939 register being 1 June 1872  (if it is right that is?) this all tallies with his age being 28 of 1901 census - therefore it is wrongly stated as 42 on 1911 census. So is the Harry Hamlin age 23 found on 1891 census him ?

So we still cannot find his birth index in 1871 (+/- 1 yr) perhaps or find him on 1881 census

Cheers John   
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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #33 on: Friday 17 July 20 08:35 BST (UK) »
'll leave this here for more qualified eyes.
More or less arrived as GRO predicted post. ETA.
This is posted to his lifelong partner Beatrice Lilian Turner's  concurrent thread too.

Entry of Marriage Certificate:  George Henry Turner - Emma Ellen Reed
No. 132
when Married.:
When married 02/10/1869.
Name & Surename: George Henry Turner - Emma Ellen Reed
Age. George Henry turner 22. bachelor
 Emma Ellen  Reed 17 yrs, spinster.

Rank of profession: George Henry, Baker.   Emma Ellen [-----]
Residence Time of marriage : G H Turner & E. E Reed. Both Biggleswade.
Father's name surname: John Turner......Profession, Blacksmith master.
Father's name surname: Samuel Reed....Profession: Veterinary Surgeon (Deceased)

Again thank you for your kind attention. I am not qualified to comment with this content.

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 18 July 20 19:30 BST (UK) »
Likely death

Staines, Middlesex January 1944
Beatrice L Hamblin b abt 1873

There is a death in Wandsworth, 1948
Henry Hamlin Born abt 1873

I think I offered that for some reason on the other thread.
#Metoo.
These are on order now in pdf form. I should know any actors apearing on them on sight.
They seem a good fit now. Pretty sure heward presented these in prehistory within the previous  thread.
My usual disclaimer, I am a complete novice here. I will post this to long term partner Beatrice Lillian Turner's thread so we are all on the same page.
Thanks for your kind attention RP

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Re: Henry C. Hamblin
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 19 July 20 22:27 BST (UK) »
Staines, Middlesex January 1944
Beatrice L Hamblin b abt 1873

There is a death in Wandsworth, 1948
Henry Hamlin Born abt 1873

I think I offered that for some reason on the other thread.

Which other thread?
Register of graves, Havelock Cemetery  (or Havelock Norwood?)
Interred together there are
Beatrice Lillian Hamblin, buried 4 March 1944, age 71
Henry Hamblin, buried 15 May 1948, age 76

Grave 52, Section C (B)
Or something like that!
Image is on ancestry.
Located Beatrice Lilian Turner & lifetime partner Henry Cyril Hamblinís  long lost grave today. Pegged the  precise location,  surprisingly easily considering  the  vast majority are lost to subsidence, some luck was involved here, thanks to jonw65
Small world, I have visited & taken food in that very Sikh temple that overshadows them. A discreet weathered marker will be added.