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Dorchester/Beaminster look up
« on: Thursday 16 July 20 03:16 BST (UK) »
Hello, hoping someone can enlighten me.  I have Bertha Matilda Jeffery Saunders born in Dorchester in 1887 (5a/339) to John & Amelia Saunders.   Using Jeffrey as a clue, I found a John Saunders & Amelia Jeffery married in Beaminister 5a/703 in June qtr 1878.  Bertha definitely has siblings: William, Herbert, Elizabeth/Maud, and Victor.  At some point the family come to Australia.  Unfortunately I cannot find any more info in Aust about John, but Amelia died in NSW 1943 and the death notice indicates John already deceased.  Too many John Saunders!  Could someone check some census or something, which might provide some clues, perhaps his parents names or something.   Many thanks.  Sorry UK having such problems with covid.  Aust now going downhill at the moment, people too complacent here.   

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Re: Dorchester/Beaminster look up
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 July 20 06:24 BST (UK) »
The 1881 census shows John's place of birth as Pendomer, (near Yeovil) Somerset, circa 1851
In 1851 John is living with his parents,  John and Hannah Saunders, and his grand parents, William and  Mary Ann Saunders  in  Pendomer.

From Gro Index.
John Saunders  Sep Q 1850 Yeovil. Mmn Griffin.
From Free BMD.
Marriage. John Saunders/Hannah Griffin Mar Q 1850. Yeovil
From Family Search
Baptism. John Saunders  14 June 1829. Batcombe, Dorset. Parents William  and Mary Ann
Marriage. William Saunders/Mary Ann Bird. 13 April 1829. Batcombe Dorset.

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Re: Dorchester/Beaminster look up
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 July 20 06:28 BST (UK) »
From FamilySearch:

1891 census
Class: RG12; Piece: 1095; Folio: 11; Page: 11
Green End, Little Munden, Hertfordshire

John Saunders  Head  M  40  Farmer  b Somerset
Amelia Saunders  Wife  F  35  b Haslebury, Somerset
John Saunders  Son  Male  9  b Dorset
Frances M A Saunders  Daughter  F  8  b Muston, Dorset
William Saunders  Son  M  7  b Muston
Bertha M J Saunders  Daughter F  3  b Muston
Reginald Saunders  Son  M  1  b Hertfordshire
George Saunders  Brother  Single  M  36  Farmer  b Somerset
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Dorchester/Beaminster look up
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 July 20 06:37 BST (UK) »
1901 Census

Tanworth, Warwickshire

John Saunders  Head  M  50  Farmer  b Pendomer, Somerset
Amelia Saunders  Wife  F  44  b Haslebury, Somerset
John Saunders  Son  Male  19  b Stoke Abbott, Dorset
Bertha M J Saunders  Daughter F  13  b Piddle Hinton, Dorset
Herbert Saunders  Son  M  11  b Little Munden, Hertfordahire
Maud Saunders  Daughter  F  6  b Little Munden
Victor Saunders  Son  M  4  b Little Munden
Letitia Saunders  Daughter  F  3  b Little Munden
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Dorchester/Beaminster look up
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 July 20 06:40 BST (UK) »
SAUNDERS, JOHN mmn JEFFERY 
GRO Reference: 1881  D Quarter in BEAMINSTER  Volume 05A  Page 370

SAUNDERS, FRANCES  MARY ANN mmn JEFFERY 
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in DORCHESTER  Volume 05A  Page 356

SAUNDERS, WILLIAM mmn JEFFERY 
GRO Reference: 1884  J Quarter in DORCHESTER  Volume 05A  Page 356

SAUNDERS, BERTHA  MATILDA JEFFERY mmn JEFFERY 
GRO Reference: 1887  S Quarter in DORCHESTER  Volume 05A  Page 339

SAUNDERS, HERBERT  REGINALD mmn JEFFREY 
GRO Reference: 1890  M Quarter in WARE  Volume 03A  Page 472

SAUNDERS, MAUDE mmn JEFFREY 
GRO Reference: 1898  M Quarter in MALLING  Volume 02A  Page 682

SAUNDERS, GEORGE  VICTOR mmn JEFFERY 
GRO Reference: 1897  M Quarter in WARE  Volume 03A  Page 541

SAUNDERS, LETITIA  HANNAH VICTORIA mmn JEFFERY 
GRO Reference: 1898  M Quarter in WARE  Volume 03A  Page 553
Death: SAUNDERS, LETITIA  HANNAH VICTORIA  10 
GRO Reference: 1908  D Quarter in SOLIHULL  Volume 06D  Page 335

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 July 20 06:41 BST (UK) »
1911 Census
Hockley Heath, Warwickshire

John Saunders  Head  M  60  Farmer  b Pendoomer, Somerset
Amelia Saunders  Wife  F  54  b Crewhune, Somerset
John Saunders  Son  Male  19  b Stoke Abbott, Dorset
Bertha M J Saunders  Daughter F  23  b Dorset
Herbert Saunders  Son  M  21  b Little Munden, Hertfordahire
Maud Saunders  Daughter  F  16  b Little Munden
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Dorchester/Beaminster look up
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 July 20 06:51 BST (UK) »
My goodness, thank you all so much.  It will take me a little while to digest all this, so I shan't make any comments now, except to send my grateful thanks to you all. :) :)

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Re: Dorchester/Beaminster look up
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 July 20 06:53 BST (UK) »
In 1841 Hannah Griffin, 13, living with adults, John Griffin 55 and Elenor, 58, in Pendomer.
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Baptism. Hannah Griffin 20 July 1827. Stockland Dorset. Parents John and Eleanor.
Marriage. John Griffin/ Eleanor Hounsell 24 December 1810. Stockland with Dalwood, Dorset.

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 July 20 07:08 BST (UK) »
15829/1916 SAUNDERS John parents JOHN and HANNAH at REDFERN
Funeral, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15686833
Probate, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15676083

9508/1943 SAUNDERS Amelia parents JOHN SOLOMON and MATILDA at GRANVILLE
Death notice, 2nd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article143948579

Rookwood Cemetery Plot : 5_Zone C/#/3761

John Saunders
Date of Burial :16 NOVEMBER 1916

Amelia Saunders
Date of Burial : 2 JUNE 1943

5 children still living in 1943, William, Herbert, Victor, Bertha (BROWNHILL) and Elizabeth/Maud (WILKINSON)

Marriages:

WA: 22 1919 SAUNDERS Herbert R to WILLIAMS Margaret L E at WILLIAMS

7216/1920 BROWNHILL Frank H to SAUNDERS Bertha M J GRANVILLE

8614/1921 WILKINSON Victor W to SAUNDERS Elizabeth M M GRANVILLE

Possible marriage, but a daughter-in-law not mentioned in his mother’s death notice:

17483/1923 SAUNDERS Victor G to CONLAN Mildred I PARRAMATTA

Deaths:

32039/1950 BROWNHILL Bertha Matilda Jeffrey parents JOHN and AMELIA at BOWRAVILLE
46021/1974 BROWNHILL Frank Herbert father JOSEPH JOHN
BROWNHILL Frank Herbert Obituary 04JAN1974 Death 93 at Allandale Hospital, Cessnock, late of Bowraville Guardian News (Nambucca Heads) 30JAN1974
BROWNHILL Frank Herbert Probate notice 30JAN1974 Publication late of Bowraville Guardian News (Nambucca Heads) 30JAN1974
At Bowraville Cemetery. Bertha and husband. Headstone photos: https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=7597660#images
https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=7597659#images
Son: 101220/1989 BROWNHILL Trevor John parents FRANK HERBERT and BERTHA MATILDA JEFFERY
BROWNHILL Trevor John Death notice 27JAN1989 Death 66 late of Bowraville Guardian News (Nambucca Heads) 01FEB1989
BROWNHILL Trevor John Probate notice 21APR1989 Publication late of Bowraville Guardian News (Nambucca Heads) 21APR1989
At Bowraville Cemetery: Headstone photo: https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=7597657#images

In WA: 17 1958 SAUNDERS Herbert Reginald 69 parents John and Amelia at Williams
Narrogin Cemetery:
SAUNDERS , Herbert Reginald . 1 March 1958 . Aged 68 years
SAUNDERS , Margaret Lena Emily . 30 August 1973 . Aged 75 years

28555/1962 SAUNDERS William parents JOHN and AMELIA at MACKSVILLE
SAUNDERS William Obituary 18JUL1962 Death 58 at Macksville and District Hospital, late of Sydney Guardian Gazette (Macksville) 19JUL1962
Probate, 1st column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article220329923
At Bowraville Cemetery. Headstone photo: https://austcemindex.com/inscription?id=7597658#images

104656/1978 SAUNDERS Victor George parents JOHN and AMELIA
103881/1975 SAUNDERS Mildred Irene parents HUGH and ALICE

11871/1980 WILKINSON Elizabeth Maud mother AMELIA
Death and funeral notices, type 17 into small, white box: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19800528&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
22594/1983 WILKINSON Victor Wesley parents WESLEY and ANNIE

AUST arrival:

Elizabeth, Bertha, Victor and Herbert arrived 12 November 1912 on the OSTERLEY:
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=9870329&S=1

William and Amelia arrived 12 January 1913 on the ORVIETO: https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=12132252&S=4

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