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Offline Lydart

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Can we erase the past .... or should we learn from it ?
« on: Friday 17 July 20 09:41 BST (UK) »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-53436447

And when the Dambusters film is showed on TV ..... and all the other old films which have kept us sane during lock-down .... will there be a *bleep* when a word from the 1940's is used ?   Double standards methinks, when so many films and TV shows these days use the F word as 'normal' !!   
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Re: Can we erase the past .... or should we learn from it ?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 July 20 11:47 BST (UK) »
What is going to be done with the British Newspaper Archive to remove all the thousands of references to **** Brown.

Stan
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Re: Can we erase the past .... or should we learn from it ?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 July 20 12:04 BST (UK) »
What is the point of "Lest We Forget", if we are going out of our way to whitewash and sanitise our past? 

The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
 Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
 Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
 Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it. 

We must take responsibility for our past and learn from it. 

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Re: Can we erase the past .... or should we learn from it ?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 July 20 13:19 BST (UK) »
I agree with you !

The past is gone, we can`t change "that", but we can change our attitudes today and in the future.


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Re: Can we erase the past .... or should we learn from it ?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 July 20 13:29 BST (UK) »
Is it not part of the endemic culture in the UK which says there must always be someone to to blame,

who can I sue, it’s someone’s fault.

Hindsight is a wonderous thing,  we are all experts with it’s benefits.


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Re: Can we erase the past .... or should we learn from it ?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 July 20 13:32 BST (UK) »
What is going to be done with the British Newspaper Archive to remove all the thousands of references to **** Brown.

Stan

You've forgotten other surnames - White and Black immediately spring to mind, and I am sure there are others , perhaps Little or Large :-\  ;D

Added - Old and Young, and I'm sure many others which some may find offensive.  :-X
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Re: Can we erase the past .... or should we learn from it ?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 July 20 13:42 BST (UK) »
What is going to be done with the British Newspaper Archive to remove all the thousands of references to **** Brown.

Stan

You've forgotten other surnames - White and Black immediately spring to mind, and I am sure there are others , perhaps Little or Large :-\  ;D 


That a bit tricky for me,   Seven generations of 6ft bxxxxsmiths to be sanitised.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Can we erase the past .... or should we learn from it ?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 July 20 14:24 BST (UK) »
Times change, and so do our perceptions of what is acceptable and what is not; and when you know that the use of a word causes upset or offence,  why would you continue to use it, when there are other alternatives?  Unless of course you wanted to cause upset and offence.

In medieval times it was common for towns to name their streets to show the trades that were carried out there.  Most of these names would still be acceptable today, but not so for Gropec*nt Lane, which indicated where the prostitutes plied their trade.  Nowadays most of us would not use that word under any circumstances (apart from those who live in Scunthorpe, who have no choice but to live with it  ;D), because it is considered offensive.  So there you are, just one example of how things change.  History hasn't changed, though; but it is being added to, day by day.
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Re: Can we erase the past .... or should we learn from it ?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 July 20 14:31 BST (UK) »
Definitely  learn and move on

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