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Need help please on the father's name
« on: Friday 17 July 20 18:54 BST (UK) »
Hi I am hoping the file has attached.
This is a birth certificate for John Glennie (illegitimate birth) but the father requested his name to be included. Scotlandspeople have noted this certificate as Glennie, John Shephit 186/  26.
On the 1861 census he is listed as John Shepherd living with his grandparents. To me the father's signature looks like it ends with a t (column 6) but I may be wrong. Any advice would be gratefully appreciated.
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Re: Need help please on the father's name
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 July 20 19:01 BST (UK) »
It actually looks like Shephrt!
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.

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Re: Need help please on the father's name
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 July 20 19:03 BST (UK) »
Hi -

It does look like Shephrt -
Then again looking at the other columns ....could it be Shephrton ??

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Re: Need help please on the father's name
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 July 20 19:06 BST (UK) »
I see Shephrt
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Re: Need help please on the father's name
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 July 20 19:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your replies. I also see Shephrt but I have done a lot of fuzzy searches on Scotlandspeople and am not coming up with anything near it! On the 1861 census Scotlandspeople it is definitely written as Shepherd so I think I will have to go with that.
Mitchell, Macpherson, Macbeth, Ross, Lyell, Kennedy, Mcdonald, Mackay, Keay, Simpson and Adamson.

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 July 20 19:52 BST (UK) »
Maybe it was just the way the surname was pronounced to the Registrar which caused the strange spelling.
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.

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Re: Need help please on the father's name
« Reply #6 on: Friday 17 July 20 20:56 BST (UK) »
I think it actually says John Shepherd, which would also explain the 1861 census.

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Re: Need help please on the father's name
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 July 20 21:11 BST (UK) »
My 2 penn'th:

I think it looks as though the registrar has written Shephrt.
His "r" is very distinctive, and his "d" (in other places on the page) looks more like "el" - the last letter of the name definitely looks like a "t".

The father's signature at first glance also looks like Shephrt, but perhaps it is simply not very precise and is actually Shephert or Shephart?

Edit: I originally ruled out Shephet, but now I've seen that the name does indeed exist.
Unlikely, though, as I would imagine there must have been an "r" towards the end of the name, if the registrar wrote Shephrt (going on what he heard).

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Re: Need help please on the father's name
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 July 20 15:57 BST (UK) »
I have now found John's death certificate 168/1  121

A different spelling for John's father Shephot!
Mitchell, Macpherson, Macbeth, Ross, Lyell, Kennedy, Mcdonald, Mackay, Keay, Simpson and Adamson.