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Re: Lumsden family
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 18 July 20 13:31 BST (UK) »
I wonder if Alice A. was actually:
GRO Births
LUMSDEN, BETSY  ANN    mmn   CORTNEY   
 1860  D Quarter in MORPETH  Volume 10B  Page 251 

Died March Qtr 1867 Morpeth.

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Re: Lumsden family
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 18 July 20 13:32 BST (UK) »
Is this another daughter

LUMSDEN, SARAH  JANE     mmn COURTNEY 
1875  Dec Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 262

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That would make sense Maureen  ;D

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Re: Lumsden family
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 18 July 20 13:40 BST (UK) »
In 1851 Jane is a servant in the household of a John Cleasby at Whitley (Bay).

HO 107/2410/471/23

Jane Courteny, servant, u, 20, House Servant, Northumberland Long Benton
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Re: Lumsden family
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 18 July 20 15:00 BST (UK) »
1871 Census
John Lumsden   38
Jane Lumsden   38
William Lumsden 17
Mary Lumsden   15
Charlotte Lumsden 3
Betsy Ann Lumsden 1
Joseph Courtney 78 Boarder born Newcastle Upon Tyne (image is 28**)

Marriage on F/S.Org;
3 May 1853
Earsdon, Northumberland
Jane COURTNEY, Father EDWARD
John LUMSDEN, Father WILLIAM


1841 Census
All Saints, NBL
Grace Cortney   30
Joseph Cortney   9 mths

Looks to me that Jane is older than she makes out in Census;

JANE Courtney christened 2 Oct 1828 Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland
Parents EDWARD/GRACE
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Also on FreeREG, abode Ouse-burn, Father a Pitman

Marriage on FreeREG;
Grace SUMMERVILLE
Edward COURTNEY
02 Oct 1828 All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne


1851 Grace is a Widow;
Grace Courtney   42 born Ballast Hills All Sts
Sarah Courtney   7
John Craig   40

Looks like Joseph was illeg.

COATNEY, JOSEPH       - 
GRO Reference: 1840  S Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE UNION  Volume 25  Page 340

Cant find Jane in 1841 Census or 2 other siblings of hers GEORGE 1829/JOHN 1830
The Bapts have the same abode as Jane but Edward is a Glass Maker




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Re: Lumsden family
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:51 BST (UK) »
Good one,Trish!

I would love a little more info from Kath Boon.

There are a few Lumsden (or parents) deaths in Pennsylvania that seem to match.

Do you know what happened to Jane?
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Hope all is well with the RCers.

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Re: Lumsden family
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 19 July 20 07:49 BST (UK) »

Good one,Trish!

I would love a little more info from Kath Boon.


I agree with that  ;D

Going by Trish's find of the Summerville surname Kath Boon obviously knows more than was originally posted.
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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 19 July 20 10:46 BST (UK) »
Well Ill wait too until Kath replies :)
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Re: Lumsden family
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 19 July 20 17:33 BST (UK) »
CaroleW -  I never noticed that.  I thought with his parents coming from Northumberland that he would have been born here.  Thanks for pointing that out.

Rosie99 - I think you are right about the Courtney name.  I don't know where I got Summerville from, probably a senior moment.  You have Elizabeth Ann and Mary right.  Elizabeth (Betsy) emigrated to America and Mary is my g.grandmother.  Thanks for finding the birth for William, much appreciated.  I didn't know about the GRO, so thanks for that information.  I didn't know about the other births mind, but thanks for that.

JenB - I was looking in the Northumberland area for William's birth that's how I found a birth in 1855, but now I know he was born in Castle Eden.  Thanks for the info in the baptism.

MaureeninNY - It definitely looks like Alice A on the 1861 census, but you could still be correct.

I would like to thank you all for your hard work.  I was nearly at the 'tearing my hair out' point, but all this information helps me no end.  Lots of looking up and things to do now.

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Re: Lumsden family
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 July 20 11:32 BST (UK) »
I'm glad its all sorted out for you now :)
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