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immigrants in 1850
« on: Saturday 18 July 20 15:01 BST (UK) »
My 2x great grandfather Charles Edward Christian Romang was born in Vevey, Switzerland and was working as a waiter in the St Annes area of Soho, London in 1858. Is there a way of finding out when he came to England ?

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Re: immigrants in 1850
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 July 20 17:55 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat Swiss

To start off with, could this be your Charles in the 1861 census?  Working as a waiter and married with two children.

Registration district   Marylebone
Enumeration district   4
Archive reference   RG09
Piece number   66
Folio   141
Page   45
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: immigrants in 1850
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:07 BST (UK) »
When was Charles born? What were his parents name and mothers maiden surname?



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Re: immigrants in 1850
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:25 BST (UK) »
I am struggling to find the marriage and birth records of this family.  Nothing that looks likely is coming up.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: immigrants in 1850
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:31 BST (UK) »
Looks like the son married in 1894

Marriages Dec 1894   
Nicholes    Alice Eleanor        Poplar    1c   1018    
Romang    Charles        Poplar    1c   1018    
Smith    William Henry        Poplar    1c   1018
Waelend    Ellen        Poplar    1c   1018

Going by the 1901 census it was to Ellen.  They have three children.

Registration district   Poplar
Archive reference   RG13
Piece number   348
Folio   112
Page   24
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: immigrants in 1850
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:32 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat from me also.

You may have already checked this - but there are U.K. Aliens entry records on the Ancestry website.

Unfortunately they are not 'searchable' - you would have to pick the appropriate years and turn each page. Your ancestor may not even have been considered an 'alien' I don't know.

To find the records - go to the card catalogue and simply type 'Aliens' in the search box (without the quotes).
West Yorks; ---- Illingworth, Marshall, Muffit/Muffett/Murfitt, Barber, Sanderson, Townend, Barraclough, Lister -- and lots more. Locations mainly in Birstall parish - Hartshead-- Drighlington --Adwalton --Mirfield - Heckmondwike --Kippax - Sherburn in Elmet.

Ireland ------Cleary, Whelan - Nenagh.
Dowling - Monasterevin
Daly - Westmeath

Lancashire ---- Smith from Alston , Johnson and Fairclough---- Tarleton and loads more from Tarleton and Accrington areas.

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Re: immigrants in 1850
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:46 BST (UK) »
The marriage of Charles & Sophia is on FindMyPast
6th March 1860 Westminster
Charles Romang full bachelor waiter 7 King Street Jean Christian Romang hotel keeper
Sophia Pattle full spinster 31 New Compton Street John Pattle painter
Both signed
Witnesses difficult to read both same surname Maillard ??

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Re: immigrants in 1850
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:52 BST (UK) »
Ah so they married the year their daughter Louisa was born.  I am somewhat dubious as to whether they registered the children's births.

It is also difficult to find the family after the 1861 census record.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:56 BST (UK) »
I would agree with Maillard one being Rhoda and the other one a possibly badly written John.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire