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Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« on: Saturday 18 July 20 16:19 BST (UK) »
Im lookinf for family of.this Albert

I dont know if he was the one who was shot by gangsters in 1933

But according to his  wife. Nellie /nechema Schwartz naturalization papeers he was born Kiev Russia in 1901 arrived New York 1907

 Married sep 22 1929 had a daughter sep 1930

& died nov 28 1933 Brooklyn

On the only 1930 census Albert SILVERMAN with.wife Nelly.living lefferts avenue ...plumber

The other Albert Silvermans of same age born.to.samuel + lena
David and jennie
Nathan.+  julia can probably  be ruled out as on 1920. Census born in.new York and or working as bookkeeper .stores or garage

There is a plumber in.1925 in Ossing Westchester New york ...I wonder if that is a prison. Any ideas
Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid MCDERMID McDiarmid Gardner Jones ,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson ,McKay

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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 July 20 16:26 BST (UK) »
If he is the Albert Silverman in newspapers he had a brother called Irvin SILVERS
Of course their surname could have been different in Russia


This family in.1915 census has SILVERMAN Albert grandson of RUBIN Max.70 + rebecca 62
Son RUBIN Selvin 36   could he be his father or uncle

In 1920 the relations are mistranscribed but same family
RUBIN selvin age 46 ,head
Mother RUBIN REbecca 70
+ grandson Albert SILVERMAN 20

Modified.ruled.this family out .SElvin.born New York
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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 July 20 17:07 BST (UK) »
There is a plumber in.1925 in Ossing Westchester New york ...I wonder if that is a prison. Any ideas
354 Hunter St, Ossining, NY 10562
Sing Sing Correctional Facility, Address

does the image give enough information to tell if it was a prison? were they all inmates? etc

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do his wife's papers give his exact date of arrival, a ship's name, etc?


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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 July 20 17:27 BST (UK) »
one interesting fammiily in.1915 census has SILVERMAN Albert grandson of RUBIN Max.70 + rebecca 62
Son RUBIN Selvin 36   could he be his father or uncle

In 1920 the relations are mistranscribed but same family
RUBIN selvin age 46 ,head
Mother RUBIN REbecca 70
+ grandson Albert SILVERMAN 20

This will probably eliminate that Albert:

1925 Census, Brooklyn
Selvin Rubin 47, head
Rebecca M Rubin, mother, 75
Albert Silverman, 23, grandson, steno, brokerage

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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 July 20 17:35 BST (UK) »
This may be your man.  It doesn't clarify who his parents were but it does give a 1924 address.

The Brooklyn Standard, 28 July 1924.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr

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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 July 20 17:41 BST (UK) »
There is a plumber in.1925 in Ossing Westchester New york ...I wonder if that is a prison. Any ideas

does the image give enough information to tell if it was a prison? were they all inmates? etc

Yes, the image shows that he's an inmate.  Age 24, born Russia, in the US for 22 years, an alien, residence when admitted to prison - Kings Co.

Albert Silverman sentenced and received in Sing Sing on 20 Jun. 1924.  He was age 23, born Russia, resided at 429 Sackman St., Brooklyn when arrested.  Crime was 2nd degree robbery, a 1st offense.  Occupation - plumber, single.  Name of relative or friend - parents (no names given.)

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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:04 BST (UK) »
Times Union
Brooklyn, New York
23 Nov 1933, Thu    Page 12

Albert Silverman with a brother Dr Irwin Silvers.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55588440/albert-silverman-23-november-1933/

Photograph of Albert Silverman in another article.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55596745/connecticut-ride-victim-linked-to/



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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:07 BST (UK) »
Albert Silverman sentenced and received in Sing Sing on 20 Jun. 1924.  He was age 23, born Russia, resided at 429 Sackman St.,

1920 Brooklyn Directory, no Silverman on Sackman St

there is no 1921 to 1923 book

1924 NY Telephone book
no Silverman on Sackman Street

1925 Brooklyn Directory
no Silverman on Sackman Street

I only looked for that spelling. you can look for the others, if you like, at
https://archive.org/details/brooklynpubliclibrary?&sort=date

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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:09 BST (UK) »
forgot this one
1933 Brooklyn City Directory
no Albert on Sackman St
no Albert with a wife Nellie
no Albert, a plumber
no Nellie