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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:13 BST (UK) »
There is a plumber in.1925 in Ossing Westchester New york ...I wonder if that is a prison. Any ideas

does the image give enough information to tell if it was a prison? were they all inmates? etc

Yes, the image shows that he's an inmate.  Age 24, born Russia, in the US for 22 years, an alien, residence when admitted to prison - Kings Co.

Albert Silverman sentenced and received in Sing Sing on 20 Jun. 1924.  He was age 23, born Russia, resided at 429 Sackman St., Brooklyn when arrested.  Crime was 2nd degree robbery, a 1st offense.  Occupation - plumber, single.  Name of relative or friend - parents (no names given.)

 Times Union
Brooklyn, New York
20 Jun 1924, Fri    Page 2

Clipping: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55588920/albert-silverman-jail/

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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:19 BST (UK) »
So, the Albert who was hauled off to prison is not the Albert who was in the car crash in July 1924 and who lived on Belmont Street.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr

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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:32 BST (UK) »
possibly the brother Irvin in Orange, NJ:

1932 Orange NJ Directory
Irving R Silvers, Optician, 237 Main, Orange, spouse: Rose, home at 61 Cleveland, Orange

WWII Draft
Irwin Robert Silvers
247 Tremont Ave, Orange NJ
age 38, born April 5, 1903, Dashev, Russia
self employed at 303 Main St, Orange
Contact: Mrs Rose Silvers, 247 Tremont, Orange

Irwin R Silvers
Birth Date:    5 Apr 1903
Address 3001 S Ocean Dr
Residence Place:    Hollywood, Florida, USA
Zip Code 33019-2809

Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name:    Irwin Silver
Social Security Number: xxx xx xxxx
Birth Date:    6 Apr 1903
Issue Year:    Before 1951
Issue State:    New Jersey
Death Date:    Dec 1953


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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:43 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for all your replies I.ll try and go thru them
1 by 1

I didnt have alberts exact date of birth or arrival because it was his wife.s
Naturalization.papers

Oldio I was busy eliminating the RUBIN  family but am much slower than you
Roberts,Fellman.Macdermid MCDERMID McDiarmid Gardner Jones ,Bloch,Irvine,Hallis Stevenson ,McKay

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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 18 July 20 18:51 BST (UK) »
Great detective work all

Ive a feeling the clues on which.Albert will be if I can link any addresses
Nellie and her daughter were living at 283 kingston avenue Brooklyn in 1934 when naturalization papers filled in.

I didnt see where it said Albert was an inmate in prison.but it was all men with proffessions and I did see an admittance form
But no clues to relations .

some trees have the murder victim as wife Katie and a son but I cant see any sources for that information.

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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 18 July 20 19:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the news articles
Its nice that his parents and fiancee supported Albert in.1924 what a pity the newspapers didnt.name them

As for the car crash Albert  # we can eliminate as being same man
..I.ll have to go back now but one of the Alberts I found and eliminated was a.truck teamster and one worked at his fathers garage ...could be indicative of fast drivers
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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 18 July 20 19:09 BST (UK) »
Erato I cant access the link you gave of Brooklyn addresses

I was looking at censuses to get addresses

Maybe he spelt his name as Silvers like his brother and one news article said he was known on ancestry
Theres a small tree on ancestry with a mugshot singsing record and two news articles ..it has the same 1930 census that I found
But lists wife as Katie
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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 18 July 20 19:13 BST (UK) »
I didn't give any link but I found the article at Fulton History

https://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr

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Re: Albert Silverman b 1901 Russia. was he shot .who were his parents ?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 18 July 20 19:39 BST (UK) »
Possible Marriage Simon Fein to Nellie Silverman - 6 June 1938 Brooklyn, New York City.

1940 census East 5th Street Brooklyn New York

Simon Fein Age45
Nellie Fein Age38
Selma Fein Age 18
Jeanne Fein Age 13
Phyllis Fein Age 12
Judith Fein Age 9

A birth for female 24 September 1930 Brooklyn.

Certificate Number 37259

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