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Offline katiesam

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Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« on: Sunday 19 July 20 13:10 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

I'm trying to find some information on my great great grandfather and grandmother. I know they were born in Scotland and had children born in both Scotland and Belfast in N.I.

I can't find a marriage cert for them or even when they died - not sure of my grandmother maiden name either - i have a subscription to myheritage but its just leading me to deadends at the moment.

This what i have

William Clark born circa 1860 in Scotland
Lizzie Clark born circa 1860 in Scotland

in 1889 that had my great grandfather Alexander Clark in (I've been told) Port Glasgow
Their other children were called Ellen, Robert, William, Lizzie, Mary, Ruth, Janie

I have them on a census in Otter Street, Victoria, Down, Ireland on Mar 31 1901 but that is the only record i can find of them and i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong. At a dead end!

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 July 20 13:39 BST (UK) »
Checking Scotlands people there are no recorded Alexander Clarks born in 1889 in Port Glasgow between 1888 and 1891.

Have you found the family in the 1891 census - a quick check in Renfrewshire doesn't bring up much (one William Clark in Port Glasgow and a few in nearby Greenock)

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 July 20 13:42 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to find some information on my great great grandfather and grandmother. I know they were born in Scotland and had children born in both Scotland and Belfast in N.I.

Their other children were called Ellen, Robert, William, Lizzie, Mary, Ruth, Janie

Do you know which of the children were born in Scotland and approximately when?
mtDNA subclade K1b2b. Father's Y-DNA I-S25383
GEDmatch kit; CF7867455
Father's kit; RY1336515
Mother's kit; AF2312865


Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie



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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 July 20 13:47 BST (UK) »
Ruth's Birth certificate lists mothers surname as McKinnon
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02153/1816775.pdf

Jane Clarke
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02054/1786072.pdf

Nicely found.

This might be William and Lizzie's (Elizabeth?) marriage;

CLARK
WILLIAM
MCKINNON
ELIZABETH
1882
501/ 53
Old or West Kilpatrick

This would be under Dunbarton on Scotland's People
mtDNA subclade K1b2b. Father's Y-DNA I-S25383
GEDmatch kit; CF7867455
Father's kit; RY1336515
Mother's kit; AF2312865


Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 July 20 13:51 BST (UK) »
1882
Birth of daughter: Ellen Clark   Scotland

1886
Birth of son: Robert Clark   Scotland

1889
Birth of son: Alexander Clark   Scotland

1893
Birth of son: William Clark    Scotland

1895
Birth of daughter: Lizzie Clark   Scotland

1896
Birth of daughter: Mary Clark    Belfast, County Antrim, Ireland

1897
Birth of daughter: Ruth Clark    Belfast, County Antrim, Ireland

1899
Birth of daughter:  Janie Clark   Belfast, County Antrim, Ireland

This is what i have in my tree so -
I was told Alexander Clark was born in Port Glasgow but it was word of mouth so may not be accurate


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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 July 20 13:55 BST (UK) »
1882
Birth of daughter: Ellen Clark   Scotland


This is a possible birth for Ellen/Helen on Scotland's People

CLARK
HELEN
F
1883
501/ 116
Old or West Kilpatrick

Note that Helen is a common varient of Ellen

This registration district also matches the area of a marriage of a William Clark and Elizabeth McKinnon in Old or West Kilpatrick in 1882 (see my previous reply)
mtDNA subclade K1b2b. Father's Y-DNA I-S25383
GEDmatch kit; CF7867455
Father's kit; RY1336515
Mother's kit; AF2312865


Kincardineshire
Sheret, Hosie, Valentine, Crow, Beattie, McArthur, Wyllie.
Angus (Forfarshire)
Adam, Valentine, Ewan, Elder, Guild, Kydd, Bradford, Stronner, Gibson, Cloudsley, Evans, Stewart, Stott.
Perthshire
Small, Robertson, Murray, Kennedy, McGregor
Ross & Cromarty
Cameron, Stewart, Grant
Banffshire - Gamrie
Anderson, Massie

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 July 20 13:57 BST (UK) »
1882
Birth of daughter: Ellen Clark   Scotland


This is a possible birth for Ellen/Helen on Scotland's People

CLARK
HELEN
F
1883
501/ 116
Old or West Kilpatrick

Note that Helen is a common varient of Ellen

This registration district also matches the area of a marriage of a William Clark and Elizabeth McKinnon in Old or West Kilpatrick in 1882 (see my previous reply)

This is such a help - thank you!