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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 19 July 20 17:49 BST (UK) »

23 Carew Street, Victoria, co Down - Alexander Clark 22 Labourer in rope works b Scotland. Living in the household of a Samuel Johnstone.

Samuel Johnstone later became his father-in-law - I've seen this census before. Thank you for looking it up. I'll make sure to look at what you've suggested x

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 19 July 20 18:42 BST (UK) »
I had a quick look for their deaths but didnt find anything yet, a great site to use for irish records is
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
Irish Genealogy only covers N.I. civil registrations up to 1921. For births, marriage and death certificates after 1921 see GRONI, Belfast. Register & purchase credits to view marriages over 75 years old and deaths over 50 years old.
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
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Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 19 July 20 20:11 BST (UK) »
Once you confirm parents' names for William and Elizabeth from their marriage entry, you should be able to hopefully find their births and families.

Given the location of the marriage, a possible 1881 entry for Elizabeth:

Elizabeth McKinnon 22 french polisher b. Glasgow
John McKinnon 20 brother, hammerman b. Glasgow
Henry McKinnon 18 brother, Rivet Boy In Works, b. Glasgow

Address: 6 Gladstone Place, Old Kilpatrick, Dumbartonshire

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 20 July 20 09:04 BST (UK) »
This may be William Clark in 1881, again showing as Clarke

10 Gladstone Place Old Kirkpatrick Dunbartonshire

Jas McKinnon 30 ship riveter b Glasgow
Ellen McKinnon 27 wife b Ireland
John Prentice Father in Law 50 shipyard lab b Ireland
Robert Brown 24 lodger shipyard lab b Glasgow
Wm Clarke 21 lodger rivetter shipyard b Glasgow.

Note same street as in Monica's post for Elizabeth. James brother of Elizabeth? (Interestingly there is a family with the surname Kinnon rather than McKinnon in the 1861/1871 censuses in Glasgow with children Elizabeth, James , John and Henry of correct ages - parents James and Ellinor, both born Ireland.).

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William
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 20 July 20 16:44 BST (UK) »
No wonder I couldn't see the McKinnon family before 1881, William! They also have some registrations as Keenan, such as Elizabeth's birth:

Elizabeth Keenan
Birth 9 Mar 1858 Calton,Glasgow,Lanark
Parents James Keenan and Ellenor Porter

Brother John also showing as Keenan but Henry as Kinnon. Henry's birth reg should include date and place of parents' marriage which is always a bonus with Irish parents  ::)

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 20 July 20 17:11 BST (UK) »
Glad you have arrived at the same conclusion re Keenan/ Kinnon/ McKinnon, Monica!

There is actually this marriage in Ireland in Hillsborough, co Down 26 Dec 1850

James Keenan and Elenor Porter. (His father James - her father Joseph).


And just to add to the mix re surnames the only death that seems to make sense for James is as James Mackinnon age 39 in 1863 in Milton RD (MMN Torrie) while the only death I can see for Elenor is in High Church in 1873 age 45, recorded as Helen Keenan/ Porter.

William
Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 20 July 20 17:28 BST (UK) »
Looks like you have found their deaths...and marriage  :) The birth cert of Henry can reconfirm the date and place hopefully.

With Ellinor showing as head of household in 1871, likely James had died between censuses as you have found.

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Re: Can anyone help me with my deadend?
« Reply #26 on: Monday 20 July 20 18:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much, I'm new to researching my family tree and so far its fascinating me. All your help is greatly appreciated!
katie xx