Harry Henry Smith)

[GAYNORI]

Hi

I was owndering if anyone could look up Harry Smith. He states he was born at Flimwell or Ticehurst in 1855 but I cannot find a birth for him anywhere, The only one I did find was a few years earlier to a Tilden Smith but I am not sure whether this is the correct one.

In the 1851 census Tilden has a son called Henry aged 9. It is in the Ticehurst parish so could be the right one but I would just like this confirming.
Many thanks Gaynori

[CaroleW]

Failure to register a birth only became a fineable offence in 1874 so many births went unregistered prior to then

With a surname like Smith you need to give more info.   Your subject header says he was Harry Henry Smith.  Can you confirm that as Harry can be short for both Henry or Harold

Who did he marry & when

Does he name a father on his marriage cert?  If you haven't bought a copy then you need to give some thought to doing so as it may help find him on censuses

Is he Harry on marriage/census/death

You have posted on the Kent board but both Flimwell & Ticehurst are in Sussex?

1881 has a Henry Smith b Ticehurst 1855 + parents John & Emily

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Going on the information on your opening post the following is a contender:

Henry Smith born SQ 1854 Ticehurst 2b 65--mmn Winch

1861 census RG9 570 9 11


Name   Age
John Winch   75
John Smith   40
Emily Smith   34
Richard Smith   16
Elizabeth A Smith   11
Henry Smith   6   Ticehurst
Harriet Smith   3
Betsey Smith   2/12

Possible marriage of parents: John Smith/Emily Winch DQ 1844 Ticehurst 7 780

John

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1871 census ref RG10 1046 12 18

Name   Age
John Smith   50
Emily Smith   44
Henry Smith   16   Ticehurst
Harriett Smith   12
Betsy Smith   10
Naiomi Smith   3
Mary Ann Smith   1
John Winch   85

John

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As per CaroleW post

" 1881 has a Henry Smith b Ticehurst 1855 + parents John & Emily "

John

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Did Henry have a partner Eliza Adams and a son Henry Charles born 1884?

John

[Ladyhawk]

Going on the information on your opening post the following is a contender:

Henry Smith born SQ 1854 Ticehurst 2b 65--mmn Winch

1861 census RG9 570 9 11


Name   Age
John Winch   75
John Smith   40
Emily Smith   34
Richard Smith   16
Elizabeth A Smith   11
Henry Smith   6   Ticehurst
Harriet Smith   3
Betsey Smith   2/12

Possible marriage of parents: John Smith/Emily Winch DQ 1844 Ticehurst 7 780

John

The Henry above bn 1855 appears to have married Eliza Maynard , siblings witnesses

Henry Smith Age   28 Occupation   Labourer
10 Nov 1883 Kilndown, Christ Church
Father John Smith occupation   Labourer
Spouse's Eliza Maynard age   26
Spouse's father's occupation   Gamekeeper
witnesses Naomi Smith Richard Smith

1901
Harry   Smith   Head   Widower   1855   Hay Trusser   Flimwell, Sussex
Harry   Smith   Son   1886   General Laborer   Flimwell, Sussex
Emily   Smith   Daughter 1889   Flimwell, Sussex

Emily age  2 with Smith grandparents John Occ gardener & Emily in 1891

SMITH, HARRY  RICHARD JOHN   mmn MAYNARD
1886  M Quarter in TICEHURST  Volume 02B  Page 118   

SMITH, EMILY  ELIZA GERTRUDE   mmn MAYNARD
1888  J Quarter in TICEHURST  Volume 02B  Page 109   

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1891 census

Name   Age
Henry Smith   34
Eliza Smith   32
Henry Smith   6
Baby Smith   6/12 Gouldhurst Kent    (Probably Frank James Smith jq 1891 Cranbrook (covers Gouldhurst) mmn Maynard

John

[Ladyhawk]

There is this baptism

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJHH-X29
21 Oct 1855  Sussex bpt Tilden Henry Smith father Tilden , labourer. mother Hannah

SMITH, TILDEN  HENRY     mmn Goodsell
1855  S Quarter in BATTLE  Volume 02B  Page 36

Marriage entry of parents

Jun 1852   Battle    2b   45   
Goodsell    Hannah          
Hall    Caroline       
Longhurst    David   
Smith    Tilden   

Added - 1861 & 1871 census

Netherfield Road East, Battle, Sussex
Samuel   Goodsall   Head   1801   ... Merchant Mountfield, Sussex
Maria   Goodsall   Wife   1808    Sussex
Samuel   Goodsall   Son   1848 Merchant   Battle, Sussex
Elizabeth   Goodsall   Daughter   1842   House Servant   Battle, Sussex
Samuel   Goodsall   Son 1848   Battle, Sussex
Maria   Smith   Granddaughter   1855 Mountfield, Sussex
Tilden   Smith   Grandson   1856    Mountfield, Sussex


Battle Road, Battle, Sussex
Samuel   Goodsell   Head    1801 Sussex
Maria   Goodsell   Wife     1808 Sussex
Tilden H   Smith   Grandson   1856 Mountfield   Sussex carter boy to grandfather
Maria H   Smith   Granddaughter   1854 Sussex   

Edit to add there is a

Tilden Smith born England 1855 married on 1920 census
living in Detroit Ward 15, Wayne, Michigan, United States
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZWP-6QN