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Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 13 August 20 15:22 BST (UK) »
Marriage:

Gertrude M Burwash

Reg Qtr:   Oct-Nov-Dec
Reg district:   Hendon
County:   Middlesex
Spouse:   James E Cook
Vol No:   3a
Page No:   1525


Cannot be connected to your Cook couple, can it?
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Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 13 August 20 15:26 BST (UK) »
And this Gertrude (May) Cook died in Camden Apr qtr 1979 (confirmed by matching 1939 dob) so isn't the Enfield Gertrude Cook death.
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Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 13 August 20 16:23 BST (UK) »
Igor,

Thanks for all that; you've definitely eliminated this Gertrude.

Earlier, I came across a Gertrude E M COOK, and those 2 initials immediately caught my attention; could this be Gertrude Eleanor Mary? Her husband was (if I remember correctly) Charles, which would appear to rule her out, but it set me wondering if 'my' Gertrude had all three names?

George

BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower


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Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 13 August 20 16:51 BST (UK) »
Igor,

Thanks for all that; you've definitely eliminated this Gertrude.

Earlier, I came across a Gertrude E M COOK, and those 2 initials immediately caught my attention; could this be Gertrude Eleanor Mary? Her husband was (if I remember correctly) Charles, which would appear to rule her out, but it set me wondering if 'my' Gertrude had all three names?

George

Well, it's certainly possible about three 'first' names, but why just show the Gertrude on the document you have, if the death and other documentary evidence is E. M. or Eleanor Mary, or Maisie Ellen.  sorry, corrected, the Maisie Ellen was his second wife


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Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
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Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 13 August 20 18:13 BST (UK) »
The document I have is a third-party's record of a question-and-answer session, the (assumed) question being "What is your name?" Answer: 'Gertrude COOK'.
The same (assumed) question to her husband eliciting the response 'Thomas COOK' even though he is actually 'Walter John Thomas COOK'.

There's a lot of 'straw clutching' going on around here at the moment.

George
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower

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Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 13 August 20 18:51 BST (UK) »
I wonder if it's worthwhile following up the neighbours - wife's second name Gertrude - who lived at number 25, the number actually mentioned on the documents.

I'm sure I'm not alone, George, in my flight of fancy considering whether there was a rift between Thomas and Eleanor Mary, and potentially between neighbours Wilfred and Doris Gertrude Hearn at no 25.

And then the remaining spouses joined up, with Gertrude calling herself Cook?

Just a thought.
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Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« Reply #69 on: Thursday 13 August 20 19:03 BST (UK) »
My theory (see above) is somewhat unlikely


Wilfred G Hearne 5/11/1897
Doris G Hearne 20/5/95
in 1939 at 102 Daneland, East Barnet.

Wilfred died in Enfield in 1971.

added:  And Doris Gertrude in 1975
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Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
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Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 13 August 20 19:12 BST (UK) »
This is probably of no relevance but in 1959 there's an Ellen Downer living at no 21, with Walter J T and Eleanor M Cook at 23, and the Hearnes at 25 Primrose Avenue
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: Gertrude & Thomas COOK
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 13 August 20 22:19 BST (UK) »
Igor,

I have to confess, I've thought that Gertrude might be 'the lady next door', but, I have to agree that it is most unlikely. Just a co-incidence?

To have an Ellen DOWNER at#21 is another co-incidence???? I wonder if she's Eleanor Mary's sister-in-law? Sister, I think, is unlikely - would you call your two daughters Eleanor and Ellen?

George
BENNETT, DAW, DYER, GARLAND, LEAT, SNELL, Devon
CONDY, DREW, GOLDSWORTHY, GONINAN, PENHALURICK, ROWE, TIPPET, WASLEY, Cornwall
NEWMAN, PERRIN, Gloucs
EVANS,  Hereford
BAKER, Somerset
RICHARDS, Brecknock
FRANCIS, Glam
ALBAN, Carmarthen
WILLIAMS, Gower