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Carmen street mancy
« on: Thursday 23 July 20 15:55 BST (UK) »
Looking for anyone who knew James Smythe. He lived with a lady called Edith, who may have been his wife/girlfriend. Don't know if he had any children apart from his children to wife Sarah. He lived at 115 Carmen street and died in 1973
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Re: Carmen street mancy
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 July 20 11:28 BST (UK) »
His death registration suggests he was born on 1.1.1898 but I can't find a birth to fit that.

Is this his marriage to Sarah?

Marriages Sep 1917 
Pritchard    Sarah A    Smythe    Manchester    8d   417    
Smythe    James    Pritchard    Manchester    8d   417
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Carmen street mancy
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 July 20 11:52 BST (UK) »
Sarah and James appear to have had seven children born between 1918 and 1934.  Do you know when he lived with Edith?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Carmen street mancy
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 July 20 11:57 BST (UK) »
Is he on an electoral register with Edith or on the 1939 register with her?

Sorry I don't know where "mancy" is? 
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Re: Carmen street mancy
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 July 20 12:00 BST (UK) »
I think it is meant to be Manchester as the Poplar one didn't go up as far as 115.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
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Re: Carmen street mancy
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 July 20 12:04 BST (UK) »
I think this is James with his family in 1901, mother appears to be widowed.  Living at 3, Spencer Street, Manchester, Lancashire

James is listed with a birth year of 1897.

Registration district   Manchester
Archive reference   RG13
Piece number   3744
Folio   126
Page   44
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Carmen street mancy
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 July 20 12:25 BST (UK) »
Yes thy him. He married Sarah , and they had. few children. He then disappeared. On his death certificate, it says he lived with Edith may Smythe. I assume another wife, or daughter, but I can't find marriage for them. They lived 115 Carmen street

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Re: Carmen street mancy
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 July 20 12:29 BST (UK) »
There is this death:

Edith May Smythe birthdate 15th February 1912
Died Manchester 1st quarter 1975
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Re: Carmen street mancy
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 July 20 12:46 BST (UK) »
It may well be that he never married Edith because his first wife was still alive and he never divorced her.

There are two deaths in Lancs. that could be Sarah,  1989 born 28.2.1899 and 1994 born 2.11.1898.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire