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Re: Carmen street mancy
« Reply #9 on: Friday 24 July 20 13:02 BST (UK) »
Sarah died 1994. Edith is on 1939 census as Edith Smythe living with husband Frederick Osbourne!

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 24 July 20 13:23 BST (UK) »
What birth year does Edith have as I can't see her on the 1939.  Living at?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 24 July 20 13:35 BST (UK) »
She's living in Derbyshire, with Frederick Osbourne, her husband


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« Reply #12 on: Friday 24 July 20 13:40 BST (UK) »
Ok found her now, someone had stuck an l on the end of smythe!
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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« Reply #13 on: Friday 24 July 20 13:46 BST (UK) »
Ok this looks like Edith's marriage to Fred

Marriages Mar 1932 
Miles    Edith M    Osborne    Derby    7b   1230    
Osborne    Frederick C    Miles    Derby    7b   1230

Most likely birth for Edith

MILES, EDITH  MAY     WILLIAMSON 
GRO Reference: 1912  M Quarter in DERBY  Volume 07B  Page 1198

In the right quarter for her birth date in the 1939.

There is one closed record which could be a child of theirs, there is a birth in 1933 in Derby which could be likely.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Carmen street mancy
« Reply #14 on: Friday 24 July 20 13:51 BST (UK) »
Wondering if she had any children to James Smythe. Can't find. both for mother miles and baby Smythe. Possibly she met James later in life

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« Reply #15 on: Friday 24 July 20 14:01 BST (UK) »
Looks as though Fred died in 1959

Deaths Mar 1959   
OSBORNE    Frederick C    49    Derby    3a   399

Edith could well have met James much later and possibly too late for children.

You could consider getting Edith's death certificate to see who is mentioned on it.

Added: When did James die, before or after Edith?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 24 July 20 14:40 BST (UK) »
He died in 1973

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« Reply #17 on: Friday 24 July 20 15:04 BST (UK) »
Ah right, so as Edith died after James it may be interesting to get her death cert. to see who is mentioned on it.

Full death registration details:-

Deaths Mar 1975   
SMYTHE    EDITH MAY    15FE1912    MANCHESTER    38   1615

She doesn't appear to have left a will.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire