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Offline dutch missmarple

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marriage lookup please
« on: Thursday 23 July 20 19:16 BST (UK) »
looking for the marriage of Thomas Brown (b. abt. 1847, Belfast Ireland) and Emma Adsley (b. abt. 1849, where ?)

children:

Thomas Adsley Brown, 1875 Rochester, Kent
Emma brown, 1877 Winchester, Hampshire
Mary Brown, 1879 Colchester, Essex
Ellen Brown, 1882 South Africa
Alice Brown, 1886 South Africa
Charles Brown, 1888 Gibraltar
Lucy Brown, 1890 Chatham, Kent
Harry Brown, 1893 Chatham, Kent

because 3 children were born abroad, I now know why I couldn't find them in England census 1881

Are there any records of when they moved to South Africa and when they came back ?

But most important I would like to know when and where Thomas and Emma were married.

thank you for your time

Dutch MissMarple
Wilson: Writtle Essex, Shorne Kent.
Windley: Woodford Essex, Chigwell Essex, Blackmore Essex.
Halls: Chigwell and Woodford, Essex
Ambrose and Corteling: Sri Lanka

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Re: marriage lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 July 20 19:26 BST (UK) »
What gave you Emma's age?
I cant see how you have age, yet not a birthplace?

Where did the kids yob and pob come from?
Nothing so far at GRO index


You've previously asked .
Did you get a birth certificate for ANY of the kids?
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Re: marriage lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 July 20 20:03 BST (UK) »
H PaulineJ,

no, I haven't. all the details I have I found on other people's familytrees on Ancestry.
But I must say, there are many familytrees that are not reliable. So much copy and paste work.
Came across this family again and thought give it another try. After reading my earlier post, it's obvious that there are more questions then answers regarding this family. If they are related at all (meaning Thomas Adsley Brown and his "parents" Thomas and Emma).


DMM
Wilson: Writtle Essex, Shorne Kent.
Windley: Woodford Essex, Chigwell Essex, Blackmore Essex.
Halls: Chigwell and Woodford, Essex
Ambrose and Corteling: Sri Lanka


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Re: marriage lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 July 20 20:16 BST (UK) »
It seems Emma was born Higham Kent

1891
14 Herman Terrace Chatham Kent
Thomas Brown Head M 44 labourer Ireland
Emma wife 42 Higham Kent
Thomas son 15 Errand boy Chatham Kent
Emma daughter Winchester Hampshire
Mary daughte 12 Colchester Essex
Ellen daughter 9 South Africa British subject
Alice daughter 5 South Africa British subject
Charles son 3 Spain Gibraltar
Lucy daughter 1 Chatham Kent
RG12 664 27 2

1901
17 Herman St Chatham Kent
Thomas Bown head M 54 labourer shipbuilders yard Ireland
Emma wife 52 Higham Kent
Thomas son U 25 labourer shipbuilder's yard Chatham Kent
Mary daughter U 21 Colchester Essex
Ellen daughter U 19 Dressmaker Natal Souh Africa
Alice daughter 15 dressmaker Syprus (Cyprus?)
Charles son 13 Gibraltar
Lucy daughter 11 Chatham Kent
Harry son 8 Chatham Kent
Emma Clay daughter M 24 Living on own means Winchester hants
Gladys Clay step daughter (possibly should be Granddaughter) 1 Chatham Kent
Audry Clay stepson (poss Grandson) 1 Chatham Kent
RG13 728 30 18

Suz
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Re: marriage lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 July 20 22:00 BST (UK) »
Per GRO

Thomas Brown registered Medway (ie Chatham) 1875 Vol 02A Page 499
Emma Rope Brown registered Winchester 1876 Vol 02C Page 96
Mary Brown registered Colchester 1879 Vol 04A Page 384
Lucy Brown registered Medway (ie Chatham) 1889 Vol 02A Page 556

In each case mothers surname Smith.

There is a birth registration for an Emma Smith at Medway (ie Higham) in 1849 Vol 05 Page 415

A possibility?

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Re: marriage lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 July 20 01:59 BST (UK) »
Possibilty
Thomas Brown married Sarah Emma Smith 27 September 1875 St John's Chatham Kent

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another transcription has his father as Michel Brown, her father as William Smith

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Re: marriage lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 July 20 08:41 BST (UK) »
thank you all !

looks like Thomas sr. did not marry Emma Adsley, but Sarah Emma Smith.
And that Thomas Adsley Brown was not his son.
All very confusing and it looks like a lot of people just copied the familytree details about Thomas Adsley without any further research.
I will order Thomas Adsley's birthcertificate to be sure 100% who his father was. I don't want any mistakes in my familytree !

DMM
Wilson: Writtle Essex, Shorne Kent.
Windley: Woodford Essex, Chigwell Essex, Blackmore Essex.
Halls: Chigwell and Woodford, Essex
Ambrose and Corteling: Sri Lanka

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Re: marriage lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 July 20 10:31 BST (UK) »
thank you jonw65. I will look into this also in the next couple of days.
DMM

Why didn't you?