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Unknown Boats ?
« on: Saturday 25 July 20 15:26 BST (UK) »
A bit of a challenge for a wet Saturday afternoon - where and when?

I know nothing about this other than it's of some boats and that the water is likely to drain away if it stays tilted for much longer! Good place for water skiing perhaps?

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Re: Unknown Boats ????
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 July 20 16:39 BST (UK) »
Judging by the number of funnels and masts, it looks like a group of three, with one or possibly two more astern.

Were there ever that many steamers at once on Windermere, for example, or might it be somewhere like the Clyde? Does anyone recognise the line of hills?
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Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Unknown Boats ????
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 July 20 17:09 BST (UK) »
hi
   yes it could be the clyde the hill line looks good
and the pier could be craigendoran the steamers
would lay up they re over night the funnels  could
be black and red of caledonian macbrayne though
i ve allways seen the rampant lion on the funnels
but it could be before my time,
the hills would be on the  greenock side of the river


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Re: Unknown Boats ????
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 July 20 17:30 BST (UK) »
You could be right - see this picture:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Craigendoran_Pier_from_the_west,_Helensburgh,_Scotland.jpg

Not quite the same view, but some similarities.

Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 July 20 18:47 BST (UK) »
Rather difficult to compare given different camera angles and distances, but this looks somewhat comparable in regards to the hills?
https://www.caingram.info/Scotland/Clyde_steamers/waverley.jpg

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Re: Unknown Boats ????
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 July 20 19:09 BST (UK) »
Hmmm... I too canít get the hills to match. I thought it might be Balloch Pier on on Loch Lomond but the hills on my photo look further away.

The other problem is that most of the Clyde/Lomond ships seemto be paddle steamers which the ones in my photo clearly arenít. I would agree that if you were to monochrome a Cal-Mac funnel, it would look like those.

Off to look at Oban!

Edit - no, not oban - doesnít look like it ever had a pier like that, itís always been much the same as it is now.

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Re: Unknown Boats ????
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 July 20 23:06 BST (UK) »
hi
  possible  non steamers on the clyde
TS Queen Mary build and design is similar
Duchess of Hamilton
Duchess of Montrose
though i m not convinced those are any of the ships in photo
all 3 did berth at craigendoran

i so wish my old dad was still here he sailed on all 3 and more

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Re: Unknown Boats ????
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 July 20 23:08 BST (UK) »
sorry non paddle steamers that should read

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Re: Unknown Boats ????
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 July 20 23:14 BST (UK) »
Could it be Barrow-in-Furness?

Added: I can't help thinking that the ships in the photo might be too big for it to be e.g. Windemere or Loch Lomond. At least one of them has lifeboats fitted.
Which is why I originally wondered about somewhere like Barrow...

Here are a couple of links, for comparison.

https://www.windermere-lakecruises.co.uk/about-us/company-history

http://www.valeofleven.org.uk/lochlomondsteamers.html


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