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Royal Engineer John Scales of Yorkshire
« on: Sunday 26 July 20 00:17 BST (UK) »
Looking to find a copy of his application.  Trying to trace line back but conflicting info regarding his birthplace and birthdate. 
England: Scales, Ingham, Perkins, Hayward, Calver, Boliver, Shambrook, Poulter, Day,
Wales: Ingham, Powell, Boliver

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Re: Royal Engineer John Scales of Yorkshire
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 July 20 07:16 BST (UK) »
An indication of timescale would help - 1800's, 1900's  :-\ 
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Re: Royal Engineer John Scales of Yorkshire
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 July 20 16:55 BST (UK) »
He would have signed up around 1850, perhaps in Greenwich as he is there in the 1851 census.
England: Scales, Ingham, Perkins, Hayward, Calver, Boliver, Shambrook, Poulter, Day,
Wales: Ingham, Powell, Boliver


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Re: Royal Engineer John Scales of Yorkshire
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 July 20 17:03 BST (UK) »
For others:

HO107/1589 folio 438, page 18 - Woolwich Arsenal - Royal Sappers & Miners' Barracks

Aged 22, born Spofforth, Stonecutter

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Re: Royal Engineer John Scales of Yorkshire
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 July 20 17:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you but already have that ( along with all family in Canada of which there are many ).  However I have been unable to find confirmation of that birth, so that is why I am looking for his application form.  I assume they have/had one as it seems most army type applications do.
England: Scales, Ingham, Perkins, Hayward, Calver, Boliver, Shambrook, Poulter, Day,
Wales: Ingham, Powell, Boliver

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Re: Royal Engineer John Scales of Yorkshire
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 July 20 17:41 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I personally have no military knowledge. Hopefully someone else will take this up.

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Re: Royal Engineer John Scales of Yorkshire
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 July 20 00:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks BumbleB....been asking around for a few weeks now and no luck.  Stay safe.
England: Scales, Ingham, Perkins, Hayward, Calver, Boliver, Shambrook, Poulter, Day,
Wales: Ingham, Powell, Boliver

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Re: Royal Engineer John Scales of Yorkshire
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 July 20 09:28 BST (UK) »
There don't appear to be any surviving records for him.  However, even if there was a record, it would not have a date of birth.  As late as the Great War, the army recorded the age a man said he was when he joined up, often just the years.  His computed age of 29 means he was born before compulsory registration in 1837.
Parish registers sometimes have birth dates in the baptismal record.

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Re: Royal Engineer John Scales of Yorkshire
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 July 20 11:11 BST (UK) »
Does John get married?  Probability/possibility that his father is named, so that gives a second clue.
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
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Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY