Missing - James Summers born Northumberland 1887/1889? in NZ by 1913??

[wivenhoe]

BDM NZ marriage
1908/6575   Jane   SCOTT   marr.    Sydney   SMITH

NZ Electoral Roll 1913
at "Harworth Cottage" Crofton West,  Wellington
SMITH Jane
SMITH Sydney, bricklayer

[Christine53]

The service record is the first in the list, not the second James of Melksham.

At this site -
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/

search....William SCOTT 26/969......  for WW1 file

William SCOTT Hawarth Cottage Ngaio....born England
NOK Mrs Emma SCOTT Hawarth Cottage  (mother)
amended to...26 Hospital Street Wellington
amended to ..Mrs Sydney SMITH  26 **mandel Rd Wellington

Yes it is Sydney and Jean SMITH at 26 Hospital Road (former address Harwath Cottage, Ngaio), not Elizabeth SMITH.

Debra 

Sorry I'm confused. Are we saying the service record which mentions E Smith and Miss Layland is the wrong service record ? I'm probably being dense , as usual 

[Dundee]

Yes it is the wrong record.  James' service number is 6/1411, he was born in Northumberland.

Emma SCOTT was at Harworth Cottage in 1911 and noted as a widow, and by 1919 she is also living at 26 Hospital Road.

She died 4 Sep 1927 aged 80 and is buried with Jean (Jane) who died in 1937 aged 56, James SCOTT who died 1918 aged 43, and Sydney and Jean's daughter Evelyn who died in 1918 aged 2 years 8 months.

Debra 

[Dundee]

Sorry, I should say that they have put the Essex address on the wrong service record in (from memory) two places.  It is the contact for the other James SUMMERS who was discharged in the UK.

Debra 

[Dundee]

James SCOTT who died 1918 aged 43

SCOTT - On 11th November, at 26, Hospital-road, James, dearly loved son of Emma and the late James Scott, late of Toko, and beloved brother of Mrs. S. Smith; aged 43 years. Private interment.

Debra 

[Christine53]

I'd just finished reading the second record  and found the address there too - at least I'm slightly less confused now 

Back to the drawing board .

[wivenhoe]

Evening Post 5 Sep 1927 p1
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19270905.2.4?
SCOTT—On the 4th September, 1927, at 21 Coromandel street, Wellington, Emma, widow of the late James SCOTT and beloved mother of Mrs S SMITH  age 81 private interment.

[Lucy2]

Hello Gail Johns and welcome to RootsChat.   

The following may well be James SUMMERS arriving in New Zealand ?

I originally found the passenger list for the vessel "Ruahine" to Wellington, NZ, departed London 26 October, 1911 - arrived at Wellington on 11 December 1911.

These three passengers were travelling on the same ticket number (#1380) :

SUMMERS
   Mr J.   - miner
   Mr N. (looks like ?) - miner
   Miss E. - domestic
Nationality :  Scotch

And this additional info -  from The NZ Immigration passenger lists (@ familysearch)  >   1911 "Ruahine"

SUMMERS
   Mr J. - Miner /  Mr W (rather than Mr N on other list) - miner /  Miss E.  - domestic.

All three destined for Westport ( i.e. West Coast / Westland - South Island) and their native place shown as Scotland.

Unfortunately, no ages given.

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

..... From her address on that document I think I have found her on electoral roll and her name is Elizabeth Smith

Hmm ... there was an Elizabeth SMITH (married) residing at # 22 (not 26) Hospital Road (Wellington South electorate) in 1914.   However have been able to discount her - she was formerly Elizabeth Eva TIPPETT, born Victoria, Australia (1888) - married James John SMITH in NZ, 1910.

   ~  Lu