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« on: Monday 27 July 20 13:05 BST (UK) »
I've recently come into a possession of a possible photo of an ancestor. He was in the Freemasons of Ireland, I am just wondering if anyone can confirm that what he is wearing in this photograph is related to the masons.

He was also a registered pharmacist, not sure if this relates to the picture.

Thank You
Scollay - Shetland (Sjovald line)
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Bannon - Belfast
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Rooney - Belfast
McManus- Belfast

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Re: Free Masons Help
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 July 20 15:31 BST (UK) »
Not easy to say as the details are unclear, but there is script ... 'George ... 1903'
He is in a Lodge, but maybe Orange, Freemason or Ancient Order of ??? Alchemists ? Pharmacists ?
The round badge on the Apron would tell more but I can't enhance it enough to discern details.

Just checked online, 1903 it might refer to Prince George, later King George (1910)
Norfolk, Nelsons of Gt Ryburgh, Gooch, Howman, Ainger, Couzens, Batrick (Norfolk & Dorset), Tubby ( also of Yorkshire) Cathcarts of Ireland, Lancashire & Isle of Wight) Dickinsons of Morecambe and Lancaster. Proctor & Threlfall of Westmoreland and Lancs, Wilson of Poulton-le-Sands. Mitchells of Isle of Wight. Hair of Ayrshire, Williamson of Tradeston, Glasgow. Nelsons in Australia with Haywards Heath connections.

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 July 20 15:34 BST (UK) »
I just searched for Irish Freemason apron and came across this!! Think itís a match
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Rooney - Belfast
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 July 20 15:41 BST (UK) »
That's a common style of Apron but doesn't identify a particular Lodge. Often the Lodge Number is on the Apron & the Sash.  What town did he reside ??? If you can find that you can locate the Lodges in his area.
Its decoration can change according to your status in the lodge. For instance, the Entered Apprentice uses a plain white lambskin without any ornament. The Fellowcraft also uses the plain white lambskin but they have two sky-blue rosettes at the bottom. Master Masons also use the same colour apron however they also have sky blue lining and edging with an additional rosette.
details from MasonicFind
https://masonicfind.com/why-do-freemasons-wear-aprons
Norfolk, Nelsons of Gt Ryburgh, Gooch, Howman, Ainger, Couzens, Batrick (Norfolk & Dorset), Tubby ( also of Yorkshire) Cathcarts of Ireland, Lancashire & Isle of Wight) Dickinsons of Morecambe and Lancaster. Proctor & Threlfall of Westmoreland and Lancs, Wilson of Poulton-le-Sands. Mitchells of Isle of Wight. Hair of Ayrshire, Williamson of Tradeston, Glasgow. Nelsons in Australia with Haywards Heath connections.

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 July 20 15:26 BST (UK) »
I've recently come into a possession of a possible photo of an ancestor. He was in the Freemasons of Ireland, I am just wondering if anyone can confirm that what he is wearing in this photograph is related to the masons.
He was also a registered pharmacist, not sure if this relates to the picture.
Thank You

Looks like a Master Mason regalia he is wearing, with the Square on his Regalia. The Irish Freemasons always wear their aprons under their jackets. A Master Mason would have three rosettes on his apron.
https://freemason.ie/.
If you know the County you could then write to the Provincial Grand Lodge
https://freemason.ie/about-grand-lodge/provincial-grand-lodges/
Power - Waterford, Ireland
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford, Ireland
Hamblin - London
Turner - Luton

Mooney - Waterford, Ireland
Veale - Waterford, Ireland
Murphy - Waterford, Ireland
Phelan - Waterford, Ireland
Ferrissey - Waterford, Ireland
Brandon - Liverpool

Santos - Cadiz, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Beneroso - Province of Cadiz &/or Malaga, Spain

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 July 20 15:34 BST (UK) »
I've recently come into a possession of a possible photo of an ancestor. He was in the Freemasons of Ireland, I am just wondering if anyone can confirm that what he is wearing in this photograph is related to the masons.
He was also a registered pharmacist, not sure if this relates to the picture.
Thank You

Looks like a Master Mason regalia he is wearing, with the Square on his Regalia. The Irish Freemasons always wear their aprons under their jackets. A Master Mason would have three rosettes on his apron.
https://freemason.ie/.
If you know the County you could then write to the Provincial Grand Lodge
https://freemason.ie/about-grand-lodge/provincial-grand-lodges/

Yes I have that information, thank you for the link!
Scollay - Shetland (Sjovald line)
Odie - Shetland
Bannon - Belfast
Donaghy - Belfast/Derry
Rooney - Belfast
McManus- Belfast

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 July 20 16:35 BST (UK) »
https://freemason.ie/.

If you know the County you could then write to the Provincial Grand Lodge
https://freemason.ie/about-grand-lodge/provincial-grand-lodges/
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Yes I have that information, thank you for the link!
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Anything else just ask  ;)
Power - Waterford, Ireland
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford, Ireland
Hamblin - London
Turner - Luton

Mooney - Waterford, Ireland
Veale - Waterford, Ireland
Murphy - Waterford, Ireland
Phelan - Waterford, Ireland
Ferrissey - Waterford, Ireland
Brandon - Liverpool

Santos - Cadiz, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Beneroso - Province of Cadiz &/or Malaga, Spain

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 August 20 19:50 BST (UK) »
Ireland, Grand Lodge of Freemasons of Ireland Membership Registers, 1733-1923
https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/60904/

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 August 20 15:10 BST (UK) »
Does this really work?
Ive just carried out a search for a couple of names, returning blanks.
Grand Lodge has released this to Ancestry?
Power - Waterford, Ireland
Clare/Claire - Dublin / Wexford, Ireland
Hamblin - London
Turner - Luton

Mooney - Waterford, Ireland
Veale - Waterford, Ireland
Murphy - Waterford, Ireland
Phelan - Waterford, Ireland
Ferrissey - Waterford, Ireland
Brandon - Liverpool

Santos - Cadiz, Spain
Risotto - Genoa, Italy
Beneroso - Province of Cadiz &/or Malaga, Spain