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Suffolk/Norfolk area Fuller & Morris
« on: Monday 27 July 20 13:40 BST (UK) »
Lucy Fuller b.1768 Reedham,married William Morris of Belton (b.1778?) in 1796.Their daughter Martha was born the previous year. Lucy had an older sister, also Martha.
Lucy Morris, widowed c 1839, was living with her nephew 'John Morris' in 1841 and 1851.Does anyone know his parents? I found Martha (née Rolfe),but discounted her.
If 'John' is also 'John William', b.1822, husband of Mary Ann Smith of Yarmouth, then he is a direct ancestor.
Another William Morris (b. 1804, Hopton) married Mary Ann Fuller (b. 1801) in Raveningham on 6th December 1825 (which is a baptismal date for a John Wm Morris)and had a daughter Elizabeth c 1828 but a couple of pages on, the wife's name is Elizabeth.
There were 3 girls named Fulleretta. One became Neslen,the other, Fairhead and my gt-grandfather's sister died in infancy.
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Re: Suffolk/Norfolk area Fuller & Morris
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 July 20 14:24 BST (UK) »
Just for information the marriage at Great Yarmouth between William Morris of Belton and Lucy Fuller otp was witnessed by a Mary Morris - It was by Licence
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Re: Suffolk/Norfolk area Fuller & Morris
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 July 20 22:31 BST (UK) »
Hello, thanks for the suggestion. Yes,Mary/Maria née Barnard (of Linstead), wife of James Morris of Huntingfield. The other witness was described as 'granary man',which ties in with William being a farmer.Mary and James are offered as parents of 'John' Morris.I'd prefer someone from Belton/Hopton but the Martha née Rolfe I found was from Gt Barton, a long way from Belton.
William Morris + Mary Ann Fuller had 2 children in Hopton. William and 'Elizabeth' had another,John Farrer Morris ,unless that's a transcription of Fuller.
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Re: Suffolk/Norfolk area Fuller & Morris
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 July 20 03:26 BST (UK) »
Just wondering where the circa birth date and death date for William have come from because burials show:.

Lucy Morris bc.1769 buried 14/4/1856 Belton

William Morris bc.1764 buried 26/8/1814 Belton (shown as church warden)

Think nephew John must be the John William bp.22/11/1825 Belton, illeg. son of Martha.

Martha Morris bur.20/11/1834 Belton - no age has been written in the register unfortunately. (all other entries show age or infant)

I think that Martha was William and Lucy's daughter and that John, nephew, is an enumerator error and should read 'grandson'!

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Re: Suffolk/Norfolk area Fuller & Morris
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 July 20 22:35 BST (UK) »
Thank you for this, Annette. I didn't have those dates for William: there must be at least 2. I did wonder if John was illegitimate but the notion of 'grandson' would certainly fit better.
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Re: Suffolk/Norfolk area Fuller & Morris
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 30 July 20 17:32 BST (UK) »
I thought that as Lucy Morris was a widow by 1841, William must have died before then.Will look for the Church Warden one!
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Re: Martha Morris mother of JW Morris: solved
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 August 20 15:28 BST (UK) »
Hello again,

You were absolutely right about Martha Morris being the mother of John William Morris. I heard (from New Zealand!) that she left a will but the farmer beneficiaries didn't deal with it so her mother Lucy had to and John lived with her as ''nephew'',when he must have been her grandson,orphaned by 1834. Naming his daughters Martha Lucy and Fulleretta was a nod to his mother and grandmother. Martha is said to have given his father's name as 'William' but impossible to tell which as there were several, one b.1799-1877 known as ''a drunkard''.
I'm taking Clement Morris b. 1691 as the grandfather of Lucy's husband William (c 1764-1814) and there's another Wm. before him. 
Thank you again.
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