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Help with George Latham Seddon's death date
« on: Monday 27 July 20 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hello

I was wondering if anyone could help find out when George Latham Seddon died as I think he died in 1852 but can't find a GRO death index so that I can get a death certificate.

He was born in baptised on 16 April 1811 in Liverpool - son of George and Mary Seddon.
Married Maria Dawson on 28 Nov 1831 in Liverpool.
I couldn't find the 1841 census entry on Ancestry but found it on Findmypast and he's listed as a maker. I can't find him on the 1851 census but his wife is listed as being married and not a widow.

I found some Index to death duty information on FindMyPast saying that he died in 1852 but can't find a death certificate.
I ordered the certificate for George Seddon who died in 1851 in Runcorn and it isn't him.
Maria Dawson's death certificate says that George's profession was a watchmaker journeyman.

The Index to Death duty form seems to be at Canterbury Prerogrative Court. Does that mean he died in Canterbury?

I'd really appreciate any help.
Many thanks
Louise

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Re: Help with George Latham Seddon's death date
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:09 BST (UK) »
I wonder if he is one of these two?

Deaths Dec 1855   
Seddon    George        Liverpool    8b   _7    
Seddon    George        Liverpool    8b   2__

As you can see the page numbers are incomplete which probably means they were difficult to read.  GRO hasn't got these two at all.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Help with George Latham Seddon's death date
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks Girl Guide
I think he must have died before that though as the death index duties thing is from 1852 and says that he died in 1852.
That's why I ordered the 1851 death certificate for George Seddon in Runcorn but it's not him.
Would there be any reason why it says Canterbury?

Many thanks for helping
Louise


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Re: Help with George Latham Seddon's death date
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:19 BST (UK) »
What about
George Seddon ref 8b 85 Liverpool aged 2

George Seddon ref 8b 207 Liverpool aged 20

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Help with George Latham Seddon's death date
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Louisa Maud
George Seddon was born in 1811 so if he died in 1852 he would have been about 41 I believe.
Thanks for looking. Where are you finding these additional deaths?
I've looked on FindMyPast and Ancestry and Freebmd but am not coming up with those.
Many thanks
Louise

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Re: Help with George Latham Seddon's death date
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:25 BST (UK) »
She probably got them from the GRO for the ages, free bmd has:-

Deaths Dec 1855   
Seddon    George        Liverpool    8b   _7   
Seddon    George        Liverpool    8b   2__    
Seddon    George        Liverpool    8b   85    
Seddon    George        Liverpool    8b   207

Not sure whether we are looking at four separate deaths or the top two have been deciphered as being the bottom two.  The original image only shows two.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Help with George Latham Seddon's death date
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:26 BST (UK) »
Yes, on double checking I am wrong, not to proud or big to admit it, sorry

So, I found these on

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

gives maiden names of children and ages at death, a very useful tool, easy to follow, careful you don't purchase a cert!!!

Give it a try with a child who you already know the mother's maiden name

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Help with George Latham Seddon's death date
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:31 BST (UK) »
This page from TNA may help explain death duties
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/death-duties-1796-1903/

I did wonder as his wife was described as an annuitant on the 1851 census whether he was already dead. 
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Re: Help with George Latham Seddon's death date
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 July 20 16:50 BST (UK) »
I see that this record shows a list of people who died intestate so he hadn't made a will.  That doesn't explain why his death record is not showing up.

I have not yet succeeded in finding any burial record for him.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire