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Offline jay2401

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Military record help
« on: Monday 27 July 20 20:13 BST (UK) »
Need help tracking down military records for a James Edward Rooney who served in the RHA as a Gunner. I know he was awarded the Mons Medal and had a son called Edward Rooney born in 1940. He appears to have been a career solider. His wife was a Minnie Wilson.

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Re: Military record help
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 July 20 20:25 BST (UK) »
This query might be better moved to the ARMED FORCES board as he served in British Army.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/armed-forces/
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Re: Military record help
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 August 20 08:08 BST (UK) »
I found this on the national archive medal index cards is this the same person.  Not RHA but East Lancashire Regiment.

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Re: Military record help
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 August 20 08:37 BST (UK) »
Not sure that the East Lancashire Regiment James Edward Rooney is the correct one.  Service record states that his wife was Alice Smithson, and daughter was Dorothy Eileen.

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Re: Military record help
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 August 20 08:49 BST (UK) »
Over 60% of WW1 documents were lost in a fire due to bombing in WW2.

There is a reference to being a career soldier - did he serve after 1920.

From 1920 the documents are with MOD.

You will have to pay 30.00

Death over 25 yrs ago and anyone can apply.

Death under 25 yrs next of kin or with the permission of next of kin.

Death cert required, you do not need service number if you have date of birth


https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-records-of-deceased-service-personnel


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Re: Military record help
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 August 20 09:10 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this is same person mentions Mons Star medal - details from

The Wartime Memories Project - The Great War - click on link to read full detailS -  names in alphabetical order

https://wartimememoriesproject.com/greatwar/thosewhoserved/r-gw.php?pagenum=33

Gnr. James E. Rooney

received James Rooney's medals into my private museum, donated by his grandson.

The Mons Star, War Medal and Victory Medal, engraved on the Mons star, Aug Nov 1914 plus the bar and rose on the ribbon, 5176 GNR. J.E.Rooney R.F.A.........

EDIT to add

Medal card of Rooney, James E Corps: Royal Field Artillery Regiment No: 5176, Gunner

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D4941094

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Re: Military record help
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 August 20 17:35 BST (UK) »
The British War and Victory Medal Roll for the Royal Field Artillery states that he was discharged P.U. on 10 March 1919, I'm not sure what the abbreviation P.U. means, other soldiers on the same page have either P.U. or T.E. next to their discharge date. Unless he re-enlisted, his service seems to have ended in 1919. Presumably though he was a pre-war regular given his first entry to France was on 19 August 1914.

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Re: Military record help
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 August 20 17:49 BST (UK) »
There is also a disability pension record for Gunner James Edward Rooney, service number 5176, serving with the Royal Field Artillery, and discharged on 10 March 1919, so the same man as above. Unfortunately I do not have a Fold3 subscription to view the actual card, all that I can add is that he was apparently born in 1880, resident in Ballymacateer, Lurgan, and serving in the Northern Ireland military service region at the time of his discharge.

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Re: Military record help
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 August 20 18:01 BST (UK) »
The Civil Registration Births Index for Ireland also has the birth of a James Edward Rooney recorded in the December quarter of 1881 in Lurgan, Ireland, so given where he was living at the time of his discharge, possibly the same man.