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Offline kiwigeoff

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Missing 3, 3 x great aunts.
« on: Wednesday 29 July 20 03:36 BST (UK) »
Hello all.
I have three, 3 x great aunts who just seem to disappear.
First is Mary baptized 25th Dec 1819 at Manchester Cathedral, parent's Jonathan Ogden, a Dyer, and Mary, no further records found.
Second is Martha baptized 20th Oct 1822, ditto, last appears in the 1841 census with parents but wrongly named Matilda.
Third is Elizabeth baptized 1st Jan 1826, ditto, last appears in the 1851 census with mother and eldest brother John W Ogden.
The father Jonathan was a Dyer when baptizing the children but a School Master in 1841. Either of these occupations would normally appear on marriage certificates for the girls, if found, and did on both son's marriages.
But in particular, Family Search have a Mary Ogden buried 25th June 1822, age 2, and parent's Jonathan and Mary but no occupation stated and no image. I am unable to find this record on Ancestry for some reason. So i wondered if some body may be able to find an image or alternative record which confirms this Jonathan's occupation?
There was another similar couple baptizing children at the same time, same Cathedral, but occupation Coal Miner.
Any help would be just great.
Thanks.
kiwilong.

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Re: Missing 3, 3 x great aunts.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 July 20 04:09 BST (UK) »
The 1851? https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGYJ-VPZ

There are marriages for an Elizabeth Ogden, 1851 onwards, in Manchester.

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Re: Missing 3, 3 x great aunts.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 July 20 17:15 BST (UK) »
The burial record for Mary Ogden is from the England, Lancashire Non-Conformist Church Records, 1647-1996.

Not all the records are available online yet.

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Re: Missing 3, 3 x great aunts.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 July 20 00:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks jamjar.
The 3 girls have such common names and no second christian name which makes it difficult to search the large number of possibilities. However, searching on Ancestry using the surname "Ogden" and father's name and profession  over a likely time period finds the marriages of both elder brothers, John in 1839 and David in 1863.
Tried both professions, also both Jonathan and John.
I suppose it's possible that the girls may have married and omitted  father's name but except in the case of illegitimacy I haven't come across  it. However not possible to be 100% sure is it and the reason I posted.
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Re: Missing 3, 3 x great aunts.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 30 July 20 01:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks heatherjulie.
That's probably the reason i haven't found it.
The youngest child was Jonathan born in 1828 and buried 25th Jan (or Feb) 1829 and I found his record in "England and Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970 but it was the address that clinched it as correct.
I was hoping that the similarities  between registers might produce an answer.
kiwigeoff.